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MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-23 21:28, Friday
by randowe
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-23 21:29, Friday
by randowe
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Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-23 21:38, Friday
by randowe
So, here are my 18 clean map backgrounds for map makers. You'll notice that some are more advanced thans others. Some are ready to use as is and some need to be largely covered by woods and fields and stuff. I may post more in the future.
I also checked if i can share my collections of cut out graphical objects like houses, trees, woods, fields, etc., but that seems impossible because these images contain endless levels of transparency while a png file only seem to support 100% transparency or 100% opuccation.
I reserved the second post, so if other people want to share their map backrounds in this thread, i can create a table of contents in the first post and move my stuff to the second post.
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 10:39, Saturday
by sympatyk
Thanks for publishing Your works
Sorry to ask - All these backgrounds are original size 400 x 381 px, are they just thumbnails?
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 11:30, Saturday
by randowe
sympatyk wrote: ↑2021-04-24 10:39, Saturday
Sorry to ask - All these backgrounds are original size 400 x 381 px, are they just thumbnails?
Yes, they are just thumbnails. You can click them and get to the picture with 3150x3000 pixel size. Doesn't it work?
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 12:06, Saturday
by sympatyk
Yes, it works ... although at first I thought it was an image ... and after save as -> a small image was downloaded.
Thanks
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 12:18, Saturday
by randowe
sympatyk wrote: ↑2021-04-24 12:06, Saturday
Yes, it works ... although at first I thought it was an image ... and after save as -> a small image was downloaded.
Thanks
You are welcome!
It also works with right klick on the thumbnail and then "save target as/Zapisz obraz jako/Ziel speichern unter", then the linked big picture is downloaded.
Hope the pictures will be useful for somebody and we will see a lot of big maps in the future

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 12:39, Saturday
by sympatyk
randowe wrote: ↑2021-04-24 12:18, Saturday
sympatyk wrote: ↑2021-04-24 12:06, Saturday
Yes, it works ... although at first I thought it was an image ... and after save as -> a small image was downloaded.
Thanks
You are welcome!
It also works with right klick on the thumbnail and then "save target as/Zapisz obraz jako/Ziel speichern unter", then the linked big picture is downloaded.
Hope the pictures will be useful for somebody and we will see a lot of big maps in the future
Save image as(Zapisz obraz jako) -> will save the thumbnail
Save target as(Zapisz element docelowy jako) -> will save the image
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 12:52, Saturday
by randowe
sympatyk wrote: ↑2021-04-24 12:39, Saturday
randowe wrote: ↑2021-04-24 12:18, Saturday
sympatyk wrote: ↑2021-04-24 12:06, Saturday
Yes, it works ... although at first I thought it was an image ... and after save as -> a small image was downloaded.
Thanks
You are welcome!
It also works with right klick on the thumbnail and then "save target as/Zapisz obraz jako/Ziel speichern unter", then the linked big picture is downloaded.
Hope the pictures will be useful for somebody and we will see a lot of big maps in the future
Save image as(Zapisz obraz jako) -> will save the thumbnail
Save target as(Zapisz element docelowy jako) -> will save the image
Haha, okay, sorry for my mistake

I just looked for the translation at a website and it seems it told me the wrong one

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 15:13, Saturday
by sympatyk
You never know how it will be read in another language ... and there are misunderstandings
randowe wrote: ↑2021-04-23 21:38, Friday
I also checked if i can share my collections of cut out graphical objects like houses, trees, woods, fields, etc., but that seems impossible because these images contain endless levels of transparency while a png file only seem to support 100% transparency or 100% opuccation.
I will refer to this passage
I changed my version of GIMP to a newer one
I made the last 2 pictures for maps on the new version
What surprised me?
No transparency in forests and cities ( in the picture)
The templates were made in the previous version of GIMP - and saved in 24bit color
The current version opens by default with 8 bit color - even in pictures saved in 32bit color -> the conversion takes place -> goodbye transparency
In your case - I think it removes the alpha channel - writes the transparency with the gray colors,
or it converts to a mix of background color and gray
If you send me a snip of the original file with transparency(no png) - it will try to do something ...
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 15:41, Saturday
by randowe
Please test and load this file first. Its a 24bit png with transparency. By the looks of it it works

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 15:49, Saturday
by sympatyk
It works
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 16:01, Saturday
by randowe
sympatyk wrote: ↑2021-04-24 15:49, Saturday
It works
Ok cool, then i can share my other stuff like this. Maybe i'll have to rearrange the files a little bit. I'll see...
Then i'll put the map background pictures into the second post and use the first post as a table of content and link to the (picture) posts in this thread.
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 16:28, Saturday
by sympatyk
check more 8 bit color depth + alpha channel .. if you have it written in 8bit color
i.e. figure 8bit color + add alpha channel -> write to png file
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 16:37, Saturday
by randowe
sympatyk wrote: ↑2021-04-24 16:28, Saturday
check more 8 bit color depth + alpha channel .. if you have it written in 8bit color
i.e. figure 8bit color + add alpha channel -> write to png file
Sorry, i don't understand. What? Why?
The original file were i collect all the graphical elements (houses, fields, etc.) is a photoshop file (.psd). I never work with png files when i design a map. I never work with or alpha canal or so. I don't even know much about that. I work on and save my work as a photoshop file, then export as png for Open General when the map is finished.
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 17:02, Saturday
by sympatyk
Ok
What color depth do you save the png file in?
photoshop file (.psd) ---> png? 8bit color?
Your backgrounds are in 256 colors with no alpha channel ...
ok - there is no point in dealing with this
Kb profit is small - do - as shown in the figure softedge2aokdu.png

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-24 20:43, Saturday
by randowe
png 8bit has a maximum of 256 colors.
png 24bit has a maximum of around 16 million colors = true color. Same as my photoshop files.
I store the map backgrounds i posted here as 8bit because at the end the map will be a 8bit png and this background collection just evolved like this.
But the objects (houses, fields) i store in a photoshop file and so i can export them as png 24bit.
But nowadays i take most objects directly from the photoshop files of my exisiting maps. Because then i can take everything i need to create the same look. For example the Ukrainian Black Sea maps are all looking the same and when i make a new map i do not use my collections but i take everything what i need from the existing Ukrainian Black Sea maps.
At the end everything is reduced to 256 colors when a map is finished and ready for playing OG.
Anyway, here is how my houses/airfields/bridges collection looks. So one can take these houses and a background and create a simple map.
Of course there are much more houses and different styles than i store in my collection, because - again - nowadays i use the other maps as a source.
Click on the thumbnail to get to the large picture and load it in GIMP. Do you think something like this is worth sharing?

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-25 06:20, Sunday
by sympatyk
Of course it's worth posting
While writing the topic - How to make maps in Gimp - I shared my graphics (currently the server is not working - where was it placed)
Briefly about the color space
Yes - png format -> is either 8bit or 24bit color space
So all images with 257 to 32bit colors - will be stored in * png -> 24bit color
I thought you wanted to publish your work in 8bit -> but that's a misunderstanding

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-04-25 21:20, Sunday
by randowe
Allright, then i will prepare the files and post in the next weeks.
Not that i think anybody will use them and we will see a flood of maps

But we can hope for the best
[EDIT: since there is no interest anyway i'll not further update this thread and save my time for other things

]
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-09-07 19:20, Tuesday
by randowe
While working on a enlarged version of the Stalingrad map by Marodeur i created this Steppe background. Added link to the first post.

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-09-08 06:51, Wednesday
by sympatyk
It's nice that you publish it -> Maybe, the dead horse will still get up
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2021-12-01 22:49, Wednesday
by randowe
Added 3150x3000 pixel hexgrid to first post. This time i was to dump

to create a transparent file because every time after upload/download the file was not transparent anymore. Anyway, after download load it to Photoshop and select pink color with magic wand tool and remove the pink.
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2023-03-10 09:17, Friday
by none
Wow, thanks!!!

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-04 12:31, Sunday
by randowe
All files from the opening post are lost since the image hosting site does not exist anymore.
I don't even have all the files on my disk, since some of them where only created for this topic and i can't find them
If someone downloaded all files you maybe can share them
Anyway, here's a new one which i created for a new 3150x3000 pixel map
https://i.imgur.com/DvWxlri.png
(Resources are maps 737 and 741 by Andrey Zorin. I am working currently on a new Viazma map just as a hobby

)

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-04 14:05, Sunday
by none
randowe wrote: ↑2024-08-04 12:31, Sunday
If someone downloaded all files you maybe can share them

I did download some of them (I'm a packrat...) and I still have them, but I don't know how to share them (about 90 MB). Right now (and for some more months*) I'm not at home and have a rather crappy Internet.
Point is, I can share those I have, but it won't be easy or quick.
* Sorry, no idea how many.
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-04 17:25, Sunday
by sympatyk
And there is nothing to talk about.
However, there is something to talk about ..
I also have your drawings (I don't know if all of them ..) and I will put a directory with them on Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
However, this is not the best solution (you can download them, but you can't view them on the forum)
I will ask the OG management - if there would be space on the server - for such things ..
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-04 18:00, Sunday
by randowe
That's it, thanks

Half of files i could not find on my computer anymore.
For the opening post of this thread i had created 400x400 pixel thumbnails. But everything got lost when the image hosting site was closed.
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-12 09:19, Monday
by sympatyk
You can now improve/complete the page --> using image uploads to the forum
https://forum.open-general.com/viewtopic.php?t=1029
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-20 11:59, Tuesday
by sympatyk
Hello Randowe
If you have difficulty uploading all previous backgrounds to the server (in order to renew the ability to display and download) --> I will gladly do it
In that case - please specify - whether the names remain as before
A question of thumbnails --> upload 400x400px thumbnails to the server for these backgrounds? --> then under what name? --> if the same as the main images, they will be in jpg
I apologize for writing about this, but I thought that posting images on a community server is a good idea (they will not disappear - as long as the forum exists)
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-20 14:08, Tuesday
by randowe
Yeah sorry, i didn't look into it. I did not try uploading any pictures because i was too lazy and i thought it is not urgent because nobody is woking on maps anyway
(I am currently working on the Vyazma map of which i showed the background. I added the highway and now working on the rivers.)
Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-20 18:15, Tuesday
by sympatyk
Your backgrounds for the first message
Click on the miniature (JPG) - shows the drawing in the original (PNG)
Code for the above image with link
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Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-20 18:46, Tuesday
by randowe
sympatyk wrote: ↑2024-08-20 18:15, Tuesday
Your backgrounds for the first message
Thank you very much

Re: MAPS: Clean Map Backgrounds for Map Makers
Posted: 2024-08-20 19:08, Tuesday
by sympatyk
Thanks for your cooperation
To make the forum load faster (for weak connections) --> I will remove images --> I will only insert the code .. to the previous message