Current scenario: Rzhew Meat Grinder
This was a hard one for me. I tried it first time before dinner. I stopped this try because a T-34 tank was tank. After dinner I started a next try. Than I had to reload two times and missed the BV for one turn. Tonight I tried it a third time and this tactic was great. I could win BV -2 and not needed a reload.
At HQ I had not enough money for a new artillery, so I gave my two Level Bombers support attachments. This should help me in the three scenarios after Rzhew, because this are winter scenarios.
There are four VHs (one VH is not on the picture, it is in the very south). The player can deploy his units on several places, but my decision is always north, northeast near the only airfield and in the southwest. There are two really critical things in this scenario. The Luftwaffe is really strong and the player starts without airfield (I now give the player a airfield as unit and he can deploy it where he wants). Also it is dangerous to deploy all his air units in the north or in the south because between on the flanks are ewerythere units and also some flak and ADs which can interfere players planes if they cross the map.
The other difficulty is in the south. Here three range 2 units, some other tanks, a 150mm artillery, a 8.8 flak as artillery and some other units are waiting for the player. This was always the waek point in my previous tries. There I had only weaker units deployed.
In my last try I played a different tactic. I used all T-34 (except the flame T.34), the KV 2, Yak AT and flak, both range 2 guns, a recon, all three big artilleries and the small flak in the southwest. Also I deployed there the airfield. This was not a so smart idea, but the good thing is that my bombers helped to clear this are very well. In the north I deployed most of the other units. A small BG with some aux infantry, tachanka, a small AD, and my normal infantry were deployed in the northeast.
In the south the battle went very well. I attacked over the river and with the help of my artillery and bombers I could overun all units at the first defensive line in one turn. This can be important, because so the AI did not see me and I could kill the 150mm next turn without problems. Later StuG IIIF and IVG with Overwatch attacked, but I had built a defensive line with my support units and could destroy both units without big problems. Later I attacked the southern VH. Here I lost some SP, because there are some small artilleries. Maybe it would have been better to wait another turn. After capturing the VH I refitted two T-34 (obviously this was not necessary) and moved northward. A little BG stayed at the VH, because east of the VH were still some germans, but only one unit attacked and was overruned by my KV-2.
In the north the situation was more critical. It was no good idea to deploy all my best fighters in the south. Luftwaffe bombed very hard. The little BG east of the airfield suffered heavy losses. My tachanka did a great job, but it had no chance to block all german bombers effectively. Sibirskyan Pekhota and my bridging unit suffered heavy losses and I had to hide them for the rest of the scenario in the northeast. In Zhew is also a 170mm artillery which can shoot into players deployment hexes. Luckily it shot only at aux artillery. This was totally ok for me
In the north I had the IVD, KV-1, flame tank and two aux KVs. It is really hard to attack Rzhew directly. I moved all tanks into the east and captured at first the airfield. Then I moved more into the west and broke through the german lines at this side. Luftwaffe still annoyed me. I deployed the three aux fighters which I still have kept at HQ. They protected my core units which had left the range of my big ADs. Luftwaffe fighters destroyed a fighter, but soonly all german planes were without ammu. Meanwhile my southern groop has captured the central VH (there is no resistance on the central road through the map). They attacked the southern Rzhew VH from south, while my northern troops attacked it from north. Meanwhile my fighters shut down all german planes. This was very easy, because even the fighters had lost their ammu.
I hope this tactic can help people who have problems with this scenario
What I would change in the next try?
- deploy the airfield in the north (but the player should hide his units in southwest in the first time, otherwise Luftwaffe will attack there)
- no refitting for units in the south if they have captured the VH in the south (there job then is mostly done)
- deploy my important units more in the east of the northern deployments, because attacking in the east is better, also deploying crappy aux artillery in the west is a good idea, so the 170 mm will shoot on it, but player still needs a good tank on the western flank because there a IVG will attack in turn 2 or 3
OpenGen 0.93.1.0 * 7 Jul 2019 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 29th February 2020
Campaign: 1939-45 FORWARD, COMRADE!, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%
Played Scenarios:
1 Battle at the Chalchin Gol , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:53 +++ Proto: KV-1/39
2 Battle of Suomussalmi , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:58
3 Pocket of Minsk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: T-III
4 Defense of Kishinev , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: T-70
5 Battle of Odessa , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:60 +++ Proto: Pe-2FT
6 Pocket of Kiew , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
7 Pocket of Brjansk , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: BM-13-24
8 Tula Counterattack , #7 , Tactical Victory , score:10
9 Urban Warfare in Moskva , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:59 +++ Proto: OT-34
10 Demyansk Pocket , #10 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
11 Defense of Voronezh , #11 , Brilliant Victory , score:52
12 Rzhew Meat Grinder , #12 , Brilliant Victory , score:57
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Campaign score: 624 * Average: 52
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Current scenario: Rzhew Meat Grinder, VH prestige is 20 , All map prestige is: 20
Army cost: 16572 , Current prestige is 1080
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 12
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, Operation Uranus , cap 22200, 15 turns prestige: 1500
if V : +100, Operation Uranus , cap 22200, 17 turns prestige: 1700
if TV: +50, Operation Uranus , cap 22200, 19 turns prestige: 1900
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 1900
Infantry
* Cavalry 38 , Cpn. Micha , 4 bars , 435 exp , Mongolia , 10/10 , Combat Support , Fast Speed, 9 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+5 exp]
Saperno-mostovoi 38 , T-20 Komsomolets , Cpn. Pavel , 2 bars , 230 exp , USSR , 4/10 , 5 kill , 252 pp - U:008 [+12 exp]
Udarnyye Voyska T-34/40 , Cpn. Lascar , 5 bars , 728 exp , USSR , 7/10 , Resilience , 15 kill , 552 pp - U:018 [+56 exp]
Sibirskaya Pekhota 41 , T-20 Komsomolets , Cpn. Ramses , 3 bars , 303 exp , USSR ,
3/10 , 4 kill , 312 pp - U:032 [+26 exp]
Tank
* T-34/41 , Cpn. Scipio , 5 bars , 1096 exp , USSR , 7/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 64 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+96 exp]
T-34/41 , Cpn. Rayydar , 5 bars , 957 exp , USSR , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , Special Munition, AntiTank, 64 kill , 600 pp - U:009 [+39 exp]
T-34/57 , Cpn. Reloadmaster , 5 bars , 737 exp , USSR , 10/10 , Superior Maneuver , 41 kill , 612 pp - U:010 [+22 exp]
+ KV-1/39 , Cpn. PikAs , 5 bars , 792 exp , USSR , 5/10 , Superior Maneuver , Fast Speed, 39 kill , 0 pp - U:011 [+39 exp]
T-34/41 , Cpn. Randowe , 5 bars , 733 exp , USSR , 6/10 , Fire Discipline , 40 kill , 600 pp - U:013 [+56 exp]
T-34K , Major Heinz , 5 bars , 618 exp , USSR , 9/10 , Shock Tactics , 17 kill , 1200 pp - U:020 [+77 exp]
+ T-IV , Cpn. Dasulza , 5 bars , 579 exp , USSR , 8/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 33 kill , 0 pp - U:025 [+49 exp]
KV-2 , Cpn. Vito , 5 bars , 673 exp , USSR , 8/10 , Fast Speed, AntiTank, 25 kill , 792 pp - U:029 [+60 exp]
+ OT-34 , Cpn. Rubberduck , 1 bars , 102 exp , USSR ,
2/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:037 [+42 exp]
Recon
* BA-11 , Cpn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 516 exp , USSR , 10/10 , Recon, 16 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+37 exp]
BA-11 , Cpn. Lvjtn , 3 bars , 363 exp , USSR , 6/10 , 7 kill , 360 pp - U:019 [+18 exp]
BA-11 , Cpn. Hitman , 3 bars , 304 exp , USSR , 9/10 , 2 kill , 360 pp - U:034 [+34 exp]
* BA-10 , Cpn. Puma , 2 bars , 209 exp , USSR , 9/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:036 [+4 exp]
Anti-Tank
* YaG-10 , Cpn. Wüstenfuchs , 5 bars , 1030 exp , USSR , 5/10 , Shock Tactics , 14 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+47 exp]
76mm M1942 (ZiS-3) , Komintern-2 , Cpn. Gerd , 3 bars , 353 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 2 kill , 324 pp - U:015
76mm M1942 (ZiS-3) , Komintern-2 , Cpn. Clu , 3 bars , 358 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 7 kill , 324 pp - U:016 [+10 exp]
Flak
Tachanka 38 , Cpn. Mythos , 5 bars , 606 exp , USSR , 8/10 , 1 kill , 180 pp - U:014 [+56 exp]
GAZ w/ 4xMG , Cpn. Gustlik , 1 bars , 192 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 1 kill , 228 pp - U:039
Artillery
* 152mm M1937 (ML-20) , KhPZ Voroshilovets , Cpn. Hoza , 4 bars , 418 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+33 exp]
152mm M1910/34 , KhPZ Voroshilovets , Cpn. Panzerlurch , 4 bars , 489 exp , USSR , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , Support, 4 kill , 1044 pp - U:007 [+39 exp]
152mm M1937 (ML-20) , KhPZ Voroshilovets , Cpn. Font , 3 bars , 351 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 0 kill , 1464 pp - U:017 [+17 exp]
BM-8-24 , Cpn. Urica , 4 bars , 490 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 1 kill , 492 pp - U:024 [+9 exp]
+ BM-13-24 , Cpn. Red Scorpion , 2 bars , 285 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:035 [+23 exp]
Air-Defence
85mm M1939 (52-K) , Komintern-3 , Cpn. de Mont Tonnerre , 5 bars , 654 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 9 kill , 660 pp - U:021 [+29 exp]
76mm M1931 , Komintern-3 , Cpn. PzManiac , 4 bars , 443 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 2 kill , 432 pp - U:022 [+18 exp]
YaG-10 , Cpn. Golothin , 4 bars , 404 exp , USSR , 4/10 , 1 kill , 588 pp - U:033 [+12 exp]
Fighter
* P-39N , Cpn. Etzel , 5 bars , 631 exp , USSR , 6/10 , Air Defense, AntiTank, 26 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+88 exp]
Pe-3 , Cpn. Wonderdoctor , 5 bars , 566 exp , USSR , 9/10 , 14 kill , 696 pp - U:023 [+18 exp]
YaK-1B , Cpn. Matze , 4 bars , 480 exp , USSR , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 17 kill , 588 pp - U:026 [+12 exp]
Spitfire VB , Cpn. Fennek , 4 bars , 454 exp , USSR , 10/10 , 14 kill , 732 pp - U:027 [+6 exp]
Dive Bomber
Pe-2 , Cpn. Sympatyk , 5 bars , 619 exp , USSR , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , Special Munition, 9 kill , 720 pp - U:028 [+52 exp]
+ Pe-2FT , Cpn. Ale , 4 bars , 447 exp , USSR , 9/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+35 exp]
Yak-2 , Cpn. Jo , 2 bars , 286 exp , USSR , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 3 kill , 540 pp - U:031 [+15 exp]
Level Bomber
Pe-8 ASch-82 , Cpn. Guzman , 3 bars , 384 exp , USSR , 9/10 , Resilience , Support, 1 kill , 960 pp - U:012 [+15 exp]
Pe-8 ASch-82 , Cpn. Winter , 2 bars , 242 exp , USSR , 5/10 , Support, 1 kill , 960 pp - U:038 [+53 exp]
Player 1 : USSR
Killed: INF:220 TNK:109 RCN:38 AT:76 FLAK:22 FORT:6 ATY:60 AD:19 FTR:33 TB:37 LB:7 Total: 627
Lost : INF:37 TNK:19 RCN:8 AT:7 FLAK:6 FORT:9 ATY:9 AD:6 FTR:12 TB:4 LB:2 Total: 119
BV 11
V 0
TV 1
L 0
Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1696 exp, 33 kill, 1116 pp Average: 424 exp, 8 kill, 279 pp
Tank * 9 Units * 7 Leaders Total : 6287 exp, 325 kill, 3804 pp Average: 699 exp, 36 kill, 423 pp
Recon * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1392 exp, 32 kill, 720 pp Average: 348 exp, 8 kill, 180 pp
Anti-Tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1741 exp, 23 kill, 648 pp Average: 580 exp, 8 kill, 216 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 798 exp, 2 kill, 408 pp Average: 399 exp, 1 kill, 204 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2033 exp, 10 kill, 3000 pp Average: 407 exp, 2 kill, 600 pp
Air-Defence * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1501 exp, 12 kill, 1680 pp Average: 500 exp, 4 kill, 560 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2131 exp, 71 kill, 2016 pp Average: 533 exp, 18 kill, 504 pp
Dive Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1352 exp, 16 kill, 1260 pp Average: 451 exp, 5 kill, 420 pp
Level Bomber * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 626 exp, 2 kill, 1920 pp Average: 313 exp, 1 kill, 960 pp
* Summary: * 39 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 19557 exp, 526 kill, 16572 pp Average: 501 exp, 13 kill, 425 pp
(You can see it on the picture below) There would have been enough time to capture it but i must have been blind 
and it is still possible to get a fast BV:
Then i bought a light flame-tank and a artillery. Later i bought a temporary level bomber.
and wish i would be so ruthless to change them in SUITE 
(after selling the temporary bomber).
) . but it's crystal clear, you don't need it, it's not necessary to repeat it 5th times 
peace! 
thanks a lot: i am a "smash with the fist, don't tickle with the fingers" style of player. With that in mind, the YaG would probably really be the most efficient solution, just i worry that with its Speed of 6, Wheeled, it won't be that fast outside of Roads and Towns. Will see, i am a bit short on Prestige (if i want to squeeze in some Flaks too), maybe i sell 1 of the freshly bought tanks or 1 of the small atys ( 
decisions decisions decisions 
