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This is a long standing doubt I have.
When ART or TB attack. Or when a unit with range two attack an unit with range one that can't fight back.
The attacker will always shot first and there wont be any counter attack isn't?
Does the initiative matters?

Ramon wrote: ↑2025-06-21 19:20, Saturday This is a long standing doubt I have.
When ART or TB attack. Or when a unit with range two attack an unit with range one that can't fight back.
The attacker will always shot first and there wont be any counter attack isn't?
Does the initiative matters?

Sorry I can't help you with this, because I never payed attention to the combat formulas, but since nobody gave an answer I wanted to at least point you to Luis' website. Maybe there you will find the answer in the combat formulas.

Here are the COMBAT "FORMULAS" procedures
https://luis-guzman.com/OpenGen_Combat.html

Ramon wrote: ↑2025-06-21 19:20, Saturday This is a long standing doubt I have.
When ART or TB attack. Or when a unit with range two attack an unit with range one that can't fight back.
The attacker will always shot first and there wont be any counter attack isn't?
Does the initiative matters?

Sorry I missed this post
Not sure to understand this properly though ...

When any unit attacks another which that cannot fire back, it is not that they fire first due to initiative, the point is that this is the only able to fire.

Initiative only matters if both can fire each other, and figures if they fire simultaneous (current strength) or the winner fires first and thus the other fire back after taken casualties.

Thank you all!
That makes sense.
It's something to take into consideration when buying an ART or TB. These units usually try to avoid confrontation and attack units that can't fire back.
Gracias por la aclaración Luis!

Well okay but TB can and should attack AA and AD if they have the initiative. They get good experience by this.

hoza wrote: ↑2025-07-06 06:55, Sunday Well okay but TB can and should attack AA and AD if they have the initiative. They get good experience by this.

Yes. That depends on the equipment and the campaign.
For example if your units are not replaced at the start of the new scenario, usually is costly to purchase TB units.
An the attack, initiative and defense can vary a lot depending on what the developer has decided for the equipment.
That's the beauty of this game! You have to take a lot of things to take into consideration!

I agree