MAPS: Post information about new maps here please

[LuisGuzman]

1500_Falciu is uploaded

[randowe]

This one is for Major Heinz

Number: 1501
Name: Uman
Location: Ukraine
Period: WWII
Regions: Cherkasy Oblast, Kirovohrad Oblast
Map size: 1920;1920

[LuisGuzman]

1501 Uman is uploaded

[sympatyk]

Number: 1520
Name: Fulda
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

Number: 1521
Name: Kassel
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

[sympatyk]

Number: 1522
Name: Sangerhausen
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

[LuisGuzman]

1520 - Fulda
1521 - Kassel
1522 - Sangerhausen

Already uploaded!

Note: only .jpg available for these maps

[sympatyk]

Thank you Luis for publishing the maps - only jpg

After reducing the color to 256 - the maps (png) were in MB
- 1520 - 5.63 MB
- 1521 - 5.57 MB
- 1522 - 4.90 MB
You saved 16 MB less in MapFinder

[sympatyk]

Number: 1524
Name: Coburg
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

Number: 50028
Name: Fulda5K
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 5400x5073

[LuisGuzman]

1524 Coburg uploaded to MapFinder as JPG only

50028 Fulda5K , uploaded to our server only

[randowe]

Hello

a new map is finished:

Number: 1502
Name: Nikolaev (Mykolaiv)
Location: Ukraine
Period: WWII
Regions: Mykolaiv Oblast
Map size: 2400;2400

[LuisGuzman]

1502 Nikolaev already uploaded

[sympatyk]

These are the winter versions of previous maps

Attention
All maps include --> terrain custom = snow

Number: 1503
Name: Fulda_w
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

Number: 1504
Name: Kassel_w
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

Number: 1505
Name: Sangerhausen_w
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

Number: 1506
Name: Coburg_w
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 3150x3000

Number: 50026
Name: Fulda5K_w
Location: Europe, Germany
Period: cold War, modern
Map size: 5400x5073

[LuisGuzman]

These are the winter versions of previous maps

Attention
All maps include --> terrain custom = snow

Number: 1503 Fulda_w
Number: 1504 Kassel_w
Number: 1505 Sangerhausen_w
Number: 1506 Coburg_w
Uploaded to Mapfinder (only JPG) and game repositories.

Number: 50026 Fulda5K_w size: 5400x5073
Uploaded to game repositories..

[sympatyk]

Thank you for publishing these maps

It's a shame Randowe is absent
He was very efficient - he made so many maps in such a short time ..
Big applause for him for such great work

[randowe]

Thank you for publishing these maps

It's a shame Randowe is absent
He was very efficient - he made so many maps in such a short time ..
Big applause for him for such great work

Congratulations for making more than 100 maps (at mapfinder). That is truly a lifetime achievement!
12 people were walking on the Moon and thousands of people climbed Mount Everest but only 4 have more than 100 maps
Welcome to that elite club of map makers sympatyk

Wonderdoc forgot to delete one of my numbers and i will publish the map next week. Then i will take a looong break from the forum and work secretly on my efile and campaigns

[sympatyk]

Thank you

But I was deceived - I thought you left the community (returning map numbers, resignation from the moderator ...)
Return as soon as possible in the forum

[randowe]

Number: 1060
Name: Kakhovka
Location: Ukraine
Period: WWII
Regions: Kherson Oblast
Map size: 2400;2400

[LuisGuzman]

Map 1060 Kakhovka, uploaded to MapFinder and game repositories

[MaXX_Oltt]

Sent my first map to Luis. Exciting . I hope everything works out ...

Number: 1550
Name: Rava-Russkaya
Location: USSR/Poland/Ukraine
Period: WWII
Regions: Lvov Region, Ukraine/Lublin Voivodeship, Poland
Map size: 2100;2100

[Wonderdoctor]

Sent my first map to Luis. Exciting . I hope everything works out ...

Number: 1550
Name: Rava-Russkaya
Location: USSR/Poland/Ukraine
Period: WWII
Regions: Lvov Region, Ukraine/Lublin Voivodeship, Poland
Map size: 2100;2100

For your next map, please reserve a number or announce that you are taking the lowest available number. All here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6&p=4077#p4077 Thanks.

[LuisGuzman]

Map 1550 Rava-Russkaya, uploaded to MapFinder and game repositories

[randowe]

I am making good progress with my Axis Black Sea campaign. 7 scenarios are finished and Melitopol will be the 8th scenario. The map will also be used for the ≈ 26th scenario where the german Wotan defensive line ran through Melitopol (sothern part of the Panther defensive line which ran from the Baltic Sea to the Sea of Azov in 1943/44).

Number: 1507
Name: Melitopol
Location: Ukraine
Period: WWII
Regions: Zaporizhia Oblast
Map size: 3150;3000

[LuisGuzman]

Map 1507, Melitopol
uploaded to MapFinder and OG repository

[MaXX_Oltt]

A new, winter map. It fits almost ideally for winter 1943 Soviet/German scenario, e.g. Operation Gallop - the liberation of Donets Basin (Donbass) region.

Number: 1526
Name: Slavyansk
Location: Ukraine/USSR
Period: WWII
Regions:Donetsk Region
Map size: 2400;2020

Files sent to Luis

[LuisGuzman]

Map 1526, Slavyansk, (assigned to Ukraine, because only one country can be set in MapFinder)
uploaded to MapFinder and OG repository

[randowe]

A new map is finished:

Number: 1075
Name: Rostov Winter (3K)
Location: Russia
Period: WWII
Regions: Rostov Oblast
Map size: 3150;3000

EDIT: Forgot to mention that this is a mod of the map no. 347

[LuisGuzman]

Map 1075, Rostov Winter (3K)
uploaded to MapFinder and OG repository

[randowe]

Number: 1525
Name: Perekop Isthmus
Location: Ukraine
Period: WWII
Map size: 2400;2400

Regions:
de jure: Ukraine: Kherson Oblast, Autonomous Republic of Crimea
de facto: Ukraine: Kherson Oblast; Russia: Republic of Crimea

[LuisGuzman]

Map: 1525 Perekop Isthmus
uploaded to MapFinder and OG repository

[randowe]

A new map is finished

Number: 1527
Name: Tirana
Location: Albania
Period: WWII
Map size: 2400;2400

Counties: Tirana, Durres, Diber, Lezhe, Elbasan, Fier

[LuisGuzman]

Map 1527, Tirana
uploaded to MapFinder and OG repository

[sympatyk]

I just combined the maps -
45, 49 --> map 1530
and
15, 16, 954 --> map 1531

Number: 1530
Name: Sollum(3K)
Location: Egipt/Libia
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150x3000

The map Sollum contains the following cities:
Tobruk, Bir el Gubi, Gabr Saleh, Sidi Rezegh, Gambut, Sidi Azeiz, Bardia, Sidi Omar, Sollum, Halfaya Pass, Sidi Omar, Buo Buo, Sofafi, Sidi Barrani


Number: 1531
Name: Tobruk(3K)
Location: Libia
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150x3000

The map Tobruk contains the following cities:
Ain el Gazala, Acroma, Tobruk, El Adem, Sidi Rezegh, Bir El Reghem, Belhamed, Gambut

[LuisGuzman]

Maps:
* 1530, Sollum(3K)
* 1531, Tobruk(3K)
uploaded to MapFinder and OG repository

[randowe]

Thanks for compiling the north african maps @ sympatyk

[sympatyk]

Clemens - it's your merit, your initiative
Thanks to all

[randowe]

I enlarged map no. 279 and made a 3K map with kind of random (no names) russian plains which will be used right after the Prohorovka scenario:

Number: 1529
Name: Russian Steppe
Location: Russia
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000

Region: fictional
Comment: mod. of maps 0 and 279

[LuisGuzman]

I enlarged map no. 279 and made a 3K map with kind of random (no names) russian plains which will be used right after the Prohorovka scenario:

Number: 1529
Name: Russian Steppe
Location: Russia
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000

Region: fictional
Comment: mod. of maps 0 and 279

It is uploaded but not as Russian, because the map has no names. It is set as Fictional instead.

[randowe]

I enlarged map no. 279 and made a 3K map with kind of random (no names) russian plains which will be used right after the Prohorovka scenario:

Number: 1529
Name: Russian Steppe
Location: Russia
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000

Region: fictional
Comment: mod. of maps 0 and 279

It is uploaded but not as Russian, because the map has no names. It is set as Fictional instead.

Thanks That is certainly more correct

I just thought at first that the map could run alongside the map no. 279, which is called "Russian Plains" and is sorted under Russia. So the maps are easier to find. But i guess, scenario makers will know all maps anyway haha

EDIT: i forgot to mention that map no. 279 has no names too.

[LuisGuzman]

It is uploaded but not as Russian, because the map has no names. It is set as Fictional instead.

Thanks That is certainly more correct

I just thought at first that the map could run alongside the map no. 279, which is called "Russian Plains" and is sorted under Russia. So the maps are easier to find. But i guess, scenario makers will know all maps anyway haha

EDIT: i forgot to mention that map no. 279 has no names too.

279 is fixed too, now it is under "Fictional" as it can be used for anywhere ... methink

[randowe]

It is uploaded but not as Russian, because the map has no names. It is set as Fictional instead.

Thanks That is certainly more correct

I just thought at first that the map could run alongside the map no. 279, which is called "Russian Plains" and is sorted under Russia. So the maps are easier to find. But i guess, scenario makers will know all maps anyway haha

EDIT: i forgot to mention that map no. 279 has no names too.

279 is fixed too, now it is under "Fictional" as it can be used for anywhere ... methink

Yes, it is more correct now My intention was just that the two maps should be next to each other, be it Russia or Fictional.
My map is basically a bigger version of 279 with a river added. 279 itself is a mirrored version of map no. 0, but without rivers.
Anyway, everything is fine now

[randowe]

While the city of Leningrad changed its name to St. Petersburg, the surrounding Oblast is still named Leningrad Oblast today:

Number: 935
Name: Leningrad (3K)
Location: Russia
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000
Region: St. Petersburg; Leningrad Oblast
Comment: mod. of map 8


Number: 1528
Name: Kherson
Location: Ukraine
Period: WWII
Map size: 1920;1920
Region: Kherson Oblast; Mykolaiv (Nikolaev) Oblast

[LuisGuzman]

Maps:
* 935, Leningrad (3K)
* 1528, Kherson
uploaded to MapFinder and OG repository

[randowe]

Some new maps are finished:

Number: 1229
Name: Dunkerque (3K)
Location: France
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000
Comment: mod. of map 3

Regions:
France: Département Nord; Département Pas-de-Calais
Belgium: Province West Flanders

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Number: 1536
Name: British Channel (3K)
Location: UK
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000
Comment: mod. of map 1356

Regions:
France: Département Pas-de-Calais
UK: Kent

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Number: 50027
Name: Dunkirk
Location: France
Period: WWII
Map size: 4200;3200
Comment: mod. of map 1229

Regions:
France: Département Nord; Département Pas-de-Calais
Belgium: Province West Flanders
UK: Kent

[LuisGuzman]

Maps:

• 1229 Dunkerque (3K)
• 1536 British Channel (3K)
• 50027 Dunkirk (50k)

Uploaded to to MapFinder and OG repository

[randowe]

Maps:

• 1229 Dunkerque (3K)
• 1536 British Channel (3K)
• 50027 Dunkirk (50k)

Uploaded to to MapFinder and OG repository

Yeah just saw it in the same minute, thanks

But map 1229 should be in France country.
And isn't 50027 to large for mapfinder? It thought that maps that are bigger than 3150x3000 are only uploaded to open-general.com?

Have a nice weekend everyone

[LuisGuzman]

But map 1229 should be in France country.

Indeed, it is changed now

And isn't 50027 to large for mapfinder? It thought that maps that are bigger than 3150x3000 are only uploaded to open-general.com?

It was that way because we thought that only the PNG could be downloaded, but it was a not true.
Then Sympatyk proved that, uploading only the JPG to MapFinder, the size for 50k maps is always smaller than for 30k maps including a PNG + JPG.

For example 50027 needs only 2.582.298 bytes for the JPG, while 1229 requires 3.203.663 bytes for the PNG, plus 2.018.007 bytes for the JPG, which means double the size in disk for a shorter map.

Actually, he never sends the png now, it sends only the jpg with a better quality, saving size in MapFinder either for 30/50k maps, which is much better, in my opinion.

[randowe]

But now the new map 50027 is the only "XXL" map at mapfinder

As far as i remember 500XX maps, so called XXL, bigger than 3150x3000 pixel, are only uploaded to open-general.com.
All XXL maps can be found at http://www.open-general.com/mapxs.php?o ... a=&omu=xxl
Thats why i included only the jpg file and left out the iframe.txt in my recent mail.

Maybe Csaba can help us out?

jpg files have more colors, but png has still a much better quality in my opinion. At least at a practicable % jpg quality ratio.
I think sympatyk had problems with the colors in his unique map style when maps get converted, but classic style maps look better as png. Thats why i use only png files when it comes to OG maps, be it playing or designing

If 50027 stays at mapfinder the country should please be changed to France too

EDIT: sympatyk's maps 50025, 50026 and 50028 can't be found at open-general.com?

[LuisGuzman]

Hi Clemens

You are right! - your 50027 map was the only 50k allocated in MapFinder, so I've deleted.

I don't know why I thought that 50k maps could be uploaded to MapFinder when the size of the JPG is small enough and I apologize for such mistake.

Probably the reason is because the last time I checked the size of all the PNG files hosted at MapFinder, I found:
* Note I use MiBytes instead of MegaBytes cause I use the size in bytes allocated in disk, which is easier to check with FileZilla or similar.

Top png sizes:
The biggest is 827 having 7,5 MiBytes and 1193 having 6 MiBytes (I'll probably try to optimize its size)
4 png are bigger than 5,5 MiBytes
11 png are bigger than 5 MiBytes
31 png are bigger than 4 MiBytes
25 png are between 3,5 and 4 MiBytes
35 png are between 3 and 3,5 MiBytes

Top 50k jpg sizes:
The biggest is 50028 having 6,3 MiBytes , and there are 4 having more than 6 MiBytes
5 are bigger than 5,5 MiBytes
8 are bigger than 5 MiBytes
13 are more than 4 MiBytes
The smaller is 50003 having less than 2 MiBytes,

So the sizes are not that different than I thought.
Obviously we are comparing png sizes with jpg sizes, but hosting only jpg files for 50k maps could be probably possible is the mapmakers refrain, as to keep within an affordable size, I think

sympatyk's maps 50025, 50026 and 50028 can't be found at open-general.com?

Yes, we all know how covid has affected all the aspects of our lives

[randowe]

I don't know why I thought that 50k maps could be uploaded to MapFinder when the size of the JPG is small enough and I apologize for such mistake.

No need to apologize. Everything is perfectly fine
I was just a bit confused because 50027 was the only XXL map at mapfinder.

(EDIT: i also don't want to tie on maps uploaded with legendary Santiago Fuertes because of a XXL map which is in a wrong place )

What i have learned since i make maps is, that the file size is pretty much determined by the colors used in a picture. Different colors have different bit costs. So far i only learned that blue has very low bit costs, thats why a XXL which is full of ocean can be very small in file size compared to a normal sized map which contains land only.

I am not sure which colors have the highest bit costs. When i put all my 3150x3000 maps in one folder, the ones with the biggest file size have a lot of green land mass.
Biggest is map 1055.png with a file size of 5,12MB, which has no ocean and is very green.
Whereas map 1443.png is mostly covered by blue ocean and has 1,2MB only.

[sympatyk]

Map 1193 - all files together - png, jpg, shp, S16 -> are ~ 6.5 MB
png file is 2.13 MB
http://www.opengeneral.pl/sympatyk/ma1193.jpg

All 500xx.jpg maps are on the server opengeneral.pl

Clemens
If you provide a link to the graphics and mapX - I will put map 50027 there

The size of the map depends on the number of colors and on the variety of colors in adjacent pixels
The compression algorithm analyzes 2x2 or 3x3 pixel squares
The ocean is mostly homogeneous - therefore it takes up fewer MBits