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...see Russian TV (i watch many things so do not worry)) said today about German police warning female refugees and kids not to accept "safe room" as they could be raped and so.... while have no idea if true of not, almost sounds like my joke with room and bed ... in that sense Rus' girl and woman is holy to me, dislike even idea of so many in prostitution or porn and that so many eastern girls are poor or "weak-minded" - let alone me thinking something violent or similar and laughing about it.... take care, though i would honestly accept some knowing me. All my erotic jokes are out of respect and love, like sisters, again. (and good mothers)

besides, Lugansk monument in Slavyano-Serbsk shows that Serb moslty cares about Rus' man... give me your hand best wishes..... btw, even our Serbian section of wikipedia (for me behind wipe material many times but anyway "important"....) runs a month long action of writing articles about Russia and Ukraine, so another proof that we care and want to promote you positively.... so go ahead write some Serbi, we had "colonies", officers and our man led bloodless attack on fort, they listened to our students bravely singing anthems etc etc i gave some inspiration..... ;

.... or to put it this way.... first time I went to Montenegro some 10 years ago, especially to one town where there were many, first time after Russian comming i mean, while i been there few times during 90s. Well, I said "now this place is more beautiful than ever" to local hinting so many Russians around (and some Ukrainians, but much less as well)... sadly i do not visit that place so much (and most likely i'll visit it even less)) but so many beauties on my short times on the beaches is something to please any Serb and i melted so many times... I even told people to call my name aloud everytime they are close but not near locals i.e. Montenegros ....yeah, back in 90s there was more place for us, everything was cheaper and more approachable, we ruled on the beaches but I sacrifice for the beauty.... so we do not look at you as some maniacs, we just look at you as brothers not understanding how other brothers are so "svetliji" to quote monument line from Lugano-Serbsk ; ..........and as said million times it were emperors Jelica and Jekica that cared so much and had great plans for us, so how could i be having some swinish ideas love and melting me, another apology for bad humor, my empresses... or how would i like this place to be like that and my post to have any sense

anyway, I remembered another "tie" between Serbia and ex-Ukrainian CCP, comically. That tie is called von Kleist, he formed 1st panzer group for attack on Serbia (then part of Yugoslavia) captured it fast, paraded around Belgradee, and then made famous actions through today Ukraine and captured our ex-colonies all up to Rostov, being most remarkable pz group in first months of war (not to mention that he and his subordinate Guderian were maybe most importnat in previous attack on France and unexpected fast success...) .... US & Brits strangely (unlike many other German generals and FMs also having responsibility in "chain of command") extradited him to Yugoslavia but he was in Serbia very short and there was not enough material for blaming him much so he was sent to CCCP shortly after the war.... like many Prussians he had no strong feelings against Serbs and conduct was relatively "civilized", mass shootings carried other officers, some from Austria etc.... while in Ukraine CCP we all know what kind of massacres happened after his 1st Pz group passed.....

but as I said, discusting subject and surely not something Serbs should write about in our wiki articles and i said it as "tie" comically ; ....generally it doesn't have to be about military history at all, we have enough other ties as well. something about middle ages, language, Puškin, Mila Jovovič tourism, most liked cities in Russia (and Ukraine) and so, how Ukrainian linguists wanted to copy some refolrms of Serbs... this is time for more ties and love showing, not less.... and once when they all kill themselves, it is known who will be first to come as help and protection, emotional support as always..... ......of course not, just dark humor again... as i said, we look at you as somehow oversized babies of ours we neglected so much during whole 20th century maybe, and care about your/our boys... I reject completely as utter lie that Russian empire was anytime bloodthirsty towards Serbia - even Nikolaj II said clearly "in case of war, do not fight and lay down your arms until powers are able to liberate you....".... (not to mention that he was ready to give maybe most beautiful daughter - no, not Bjeločka - to our not so beautiful king who didn't even look so sexy as medieval elite of ours....)) and so on and on. reason, rising intelectual level and mutual respect is our future, as before.... ;

i gotta finish sometimes, don't i so do not be offended if i do....

...since mentioned, looked at some photos and turns out that i visited also for a week in 2014 in an uneasy geopolilitcal situation.... put it as an alibi but they zombified me on the beaches and I went to war and to defend Scytho-Serbsk.... ; ...didn't travel by plane btw, we went and returned by car of one, but visited airport to meet with some agents and officers from Moscow...

small coastal airport, as seen only 2 directions almost everyday, Belgrade and Moscow (Domodedovo is one of biggest airports in Moscow)

so yes, "Moskva krasavica" in every way .... would like to visit Black sea coastal towns once and look at beaches, btw... never checked the prices but we Serbs are still, GDP wise, relatively poor and even less than you (but more than Ukraina) so not some travelers, but i said i liked the fact that your data showed most arrivals from Serbia out of whole SE Europe.... not rich, but generally after we became democratic world usually even people working in supermarkets and similar are able to buy few houses on the sea... wish you the luck, "svetliji moji" ........... and such pictures like mine to be rule around the world (and Kijev and Minsk.....) .... do say something, even i do not like games around that much, but we can be friends )

...to change subject a bit and as probably last turn to this thing and genetics, nice link much more detailed than map i posted few times before and includes virtually all regions and ethnicities of Europe.... please do not read stupid comments of users concentrate on facts and science:

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european ... oups.shtml

so yes, not so important but always fun, curious subject and important to beat some old myths and prejudices like one i remembered about "which European nations and regions are more inbred through history" often pointing to Balkans (aka the Baklava in politology)) Eastern Europe and similar - well modern genetics show that in concrete Serbia is more genetically diverse and mixed genetically than many West European tribes i.e. nations, same for Ukraine, Bulgaria, Russia for example, while some on the west have more monolithic genetics.... but it doesn't make them inbred ...yes generally we have "sexual apetite" for our sisters, but those sisters live hundreds of kilometers away (you know who i mean) Jokes aside, prejudices aside - let's get back to some more serious and fun moments about true genetical finds...

....first, not important how they classified and named them it is true that our I2 is great mystery and not sure to whome related really... i jokingly say "Scythian" though more based on our tribe name and many Iranic/Scytish words exclusively preserved among us like I talked in "translations" - like word "hvala" which other Slavs i.e. Slovens do not use but is surely eastern and old-Slavic... other important moment is that Slavic countries which have it the most except us are exactly Belarus, Ukraine and Russia, though we have much lesser true Slavic R1 than them, but it is second most dominant after "our" I2, plus our languages undoubted ties. If "I2 people" were not from there we wouldn't speak it, but it is safe to say that huge masses of purely Slavic (R1) people did not move to Balkan peninsula... except if we take that we lived together in Ukraine-Belarus but we moved as I2's without many R1's clear. Nice subject and one which doesn't separate us at all, historically....

other only funny moment is that of all southern Slavic peoples (from Bulgaria to Croatia) by this table Serbs (including Bosnian Serbs) have the most of true Nordic (Viking) I1 haplo so you can be just jealous, we win again And as last fun moment it is indeed, maybe unexpectedly, haplogroup (I2) most present in Aragon of all Spanish regions...

(small note to those thinking about southern Slavs - Slovenia is country - and only - where Slavic R2 is most dominant, like pattern of all other countries of that ethno-group) ..... we the rest are a bit mysterious (albeit except Bosnia very mixed too) but again that haplo is most dominant in Belarus and Ukraine, so i'd say some old tie with Rus' lands (and today Russians) exists.... probably last time about genetic finds and one can find million interesting numbers and combos there, I think i composed this post fun as ever respect to sisters and prosperity, babies and all... though this post wasn't about them ; ...always like to hear from you, even if you are not some scientist...

...I said I finished - leaving conclusions and mysteries to curious minds ; but must add for those not reading carefully or do not caring much...

by study - and as is written there before table naming haplogroups - it turns out that south Slavs in majority which is in Serbia around 35% for example (execept Slovenes again and Bulgarians partly) together with Sardinians, some Corsicans, some Spanish, many in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia (and in other places in much smaller percent) are among the oldest Europeans.... I think subject is mostly known, but to repeat.... still I do not know how we speak Slavic and not some other forms, except if we in fact gave language to Slavs and not vice versa... that's it simplified and in short.

theory is not bias nor anything fantastical nor political and indeed one of most important rivers in old Raška and nerby regions is Ibar and in Aragon Ebro etc etc.... regarding our famous medieval body size (and today) maybe something indeed with that and we being some monkeys (or Adams and Eves of Europe, depends on your position...)

as last, and why i banged my head so much about it through whole thread, if we accept it or partly accept it and scientist are not wrong with haplogroup historical timing - surely one of the most interesting things in "our whole history" is that and not some secrets from the middle ages, XIX century or Rome, Serbs and the rest as among oldest Europeans ....maybe explains some historical respect we often gained from Russian emperors for example, but also Ukrainian sceintists, Polish "bards", Czech linguists etc etc ect - they often protected us as "strange almost sacral species" (esp some Russian emperors, strangely enough they did not even know about such studies....)

I'm so tired and ready to be your personal atavistic pet, miladies ....and again, interesting surely but we are relaxed about it and care about size of other sisters and relatives, with respect, never putting ourselves as most important... I maximally shortened it to be intersesting conclusion i.e. theory i.e. something new if you never heard about it... so again, we are not just Scyths, not just Slavs - we are older than them continentally.... as i said, no idea how our culture and some more unique language did not develop, that's for me biggest "hole" i.e. unknown in all story and study.... not our subjects, but it made this "pub" section richer, i hope, while for me no trouble to type..... next post something about Rus' ......

pls give us a break

nothing funny sadly, it is science - I1, I2 etc are by scientists - including American institutes - sorted among mesolithic DNA material and oldest in Europe... or is it funny that Russia/Ukraine/Belarus together are as of big population as Germany, Italy and France together and we never had many members from there, even in old forums. So i like them, like to include them, to talk with them and show that they have countries friendly to them in other regions etc etc..... anyway....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinia

must say never visited the island, it is very nice and all, did not know much about history esp. not some prehistoric, neolithic and bronze/iron age one, but find it interesting - and very compatible with some ideas i have and presence of I2 - that story about "giants".... very nice so Sardines our sisters too (i like one with vegetables))

sadly i learnt about other aspects - and that's why Wiki is worth despite my complains ; - of Sardinia in modern times, militarization, NATO and Italian army presence (even Israeli they say etc), weapon testing sites and alleged - i don't see why would Italian journalist lie - previous increase in cancers and even child birth defects, mutations ( .... eh, eh the humanity. In light of all recent events - doesn't matter how democratic government fan I am - dislike any super military alliances, delegation of sovereignty and defence to others etc etc If it turns that ever in history we will have to eneter some pacts - hopefully our kids will rise and protest against any bases and "good thing" is that we are not strategically important for any future bases if we ever join ....bases and testing sites are needed closer to the east..... yes, I am for Russian female super soldiers annexing me, you catched me in the lie....

other tie with Sardinia is that they also have population problems (but it is pan-European problem) and depopulation of rural areas, like us.... thing is that we already reached need for immigrants but didn't reach level of Italian GDP pp, wages and all... but it doesn't matter, we live in a happy world.... we do a lot of babies to Black, Arabic and all girls, not to be misunderstood i just "cry" over depopulation and little true love in modern world ;

back to history, must say I did not know that we share some historical traits and I2 subtype with that isle until recently ... regarding "giants" I mentioned many times, many of our medieval elite were considered "tall", culminating with emperor Dušan, man of unusual look and height for that time (over 210+) as most famous example, so surely we were carriers of that gene... plus, also talked old Slavs considered people and groups we possibly belonged to as "giants" etc etc Nice subject and our mesolithic brothers, so prosperity to Sardinia too... hope i visit once but not soon, i think ;

...welcome to forum anyone and do some interesting and friendly things so we can maybe share stories of some interests except history of modern wars... that's subject for Randowe you are newer (and OG productive for respect) but i still hope forum could be visited like old places for games and history interests around 2004-05 but chances are low and i guess that's what you are laughing at... as long as pub exists I share and laugh, and I call others to share as well, even put some travel tips... when it is closed it is closed and i do not post in other subsections - more personal offenses and unfriendly words came in game related forums .... have fun, surely you are right - medieval OG mod will not be made, you are right

ultimately I finish, but this one also.... some guy made it, source IMF

eh, my Krajinko, brate, even I have 2,33x bigger thing... and still 6x smaller than German... but we will contact some educated German girls via internet for marriage and to move in our place, or just for fun without marriage... nothing funny there. (can't believe that we have such big nominal - it says 8,4 k dollars, but lets believe guy who made it, but not to mix with wages where things are even worse))

even Thailand more than 2x bigger, Vietnam bigger (for example)... what to say, really. I am sorry, trully sorry for all.... do they use internet in EE at all? nothing funny if you understand what i mean... so yes, i give it a break after this ; ....and post only in "translations" from now on ..... sorry to Ukrajinke again for eventual things, no need to say anything to Ruskinje, carice. Send you all my fleet and submarines...

(but i think there is much to learn from my posts, historical or else, hopefully liked and absolutely 0% lies...)

and so, using open place, internet, and this thread as a chance to put some things regarding world and us... there was history, economy, crime, violence, health etc etc ...and hoping to exchange some opinion but not expecting ;

so i seen on Russian TV ..... ..... (interesting times to watch EE stations, isn't it) this line, totally unrelated to anything actual and unrelated to helath pers se... subject of their mention was something different. In that sense my respect to ordinary Russians and citizens, like their care, even if that is only 5% of that country (just joking) and remeberance of our lives and victims - and of course I'll always remember yours and sacrifice as well, numbering probably thousands of your lives lost in wars from XVIII c to modern times - immortalized even in famous works like Lav Tolstoj's.... but apolitically because today we are modern and we must hate eachother ...since I mentioned Tolstoyevski and his work "war & peace" of course I prefer peace part and babies ;

so they mentioned us as leaders in Europe by cancer related problems, so I add this link from "official source" - but doubtful like many others including any world data on anything - but official WHO... interestingly we are true European leaders by death from cancer i.e. mortality rates, "beaten" only by Mongolia globally. Maybe indicator of our bad helath care and state of medicine, because mostly central-European (plus Armenia) countries are in top of mortality rates - and in that sense respect to Russia, Ukraine, Belarus for being in the middle and better... BUT interestingly enough, with all events and habits we have - we are not leaders, not even top, by incidence nor prevalence rates in Europe, nor "western world" (or cancer world, sadly) and many west-Euro countries have significantly higher incidence rates than us... nice map and table in 3 categories so look at it if you wish and switch between continent and world view... again must be mentioned that our "western world" statistics, data collecting and sources are much better than many other parts of the world so that's why some countries have more cases recorded ; (...remebered "stats" like those which showed that male Turks and Arabs do like to drink "secretly" even more than EE males etc etc etc but let's say this is more precise data and issue by WHO)

so yes we are continental leaders in deaths from cancer, but not in top of incidence allegedly, and not top of vilolence, crime and gun related deaths like some ... bad throne, but not to scare young Easterners wanting to come and mate ;

WHO DATA & MAPS

actually, it is from "Ana Karenina" IIRC ....so sorry, but I was reading in the high-school... i prefer Dostojevski anway

...to add to that... important, interesting read after going into some details and various subsections for better understanding. It is lung cancer, most prevalent and incidental in us, we are top of the world with few others... other types not so much, I looked at various things from reproductive/sexual organs type ones to it etc. and that's why west-E and other have worse incidence (i.e. number per 100k pops) than us.... [lighting cigarela] alas [/lighting cigarela] ....another interesting moment is that - while incidence rates are higher in males than females in all countries - one thing I noticed is that by female incidence rates we rank even higher than male, while as i said not top in any - 11th female incidence vs 20th male peopulation, continentally.... same in mortality - 1st by females and 3rd males, sadly. (but females live longer generally)

again respect to ex-Mordor as haters like to say, Russia and Ukraine for such good rates especially in cancer incidence rates, if true - but you probably are not some underdeveloped world to lie about it. Who says that having no economy, no production, no money and running around naked with only flowers in the hair - is bad thing. (esp. looking at you Ukraina) that's at least how I remember them from the time me and the crew been riding there 1500 years ago ; ..........humor aside, true respect and something to learn from, and to - without any joke - import Russian nurses and doctors here, esp. since others are "stealing" ours but not to sound like I'd steal yours, if you know what I mean - so maybe some quiet annexation, nobody to notice ..... well, i constantly been saying that those countries are not bottom of everything, but many younger generations do not know about your positive sides.

with this I finish this unpleasant subject and health issue.... as other subject again, thanks for historical sacrifice in our lands, Russia (including all sub-nationalities of both empire and CCCP who died here for us) hope not needed ever again but you can colonize us.....do not worry about me posting much, but this one was interesting as health (hence important) subject....

...so, for example, you think that loosing 50 more females, woman per 100k population yearly which is on 7 millions people around 3500-4000 every year, more than some other country is irrelevant, unimportant? like the death and destruction, sir?

"axis forums" and movements must be more important, nice place for your emoticons and posts

Oh sorry, i thought this is pub forum where we post nonsense and Captain Picard is always welcome.

...but again, I think dealing with some of darkest moments in your "recent" history in a gaming/fun way was mistake, personally i really think that now... i'd personally never make camps and fun about own darkest moments

do not talk to others when not addressed, golden rule of being polite ; and when nobody is being attacked...with this I finish this totally uninteresting conversation. Besides, i do not even think that you understand my posts and subjects at all, esp. not political nor social... And i use a lot of humor and satire which you also do not get ....and yes i respect, giving them historical and human respect - 3 months of protests in winter of 1997-98 Belgrade, and nobody dead until goals reached (unimportant example, same 2000) so some "analitic minds" in 2014 expecting "another one, but with more blood" .... health care for citizens also unimportant, it is important that some foreigner can write that he/she could get cheap teeth (or contact lenses, eyes operation) here, education price for non-budget students etc. etc. so those are all civilization and human achievements we have lost and has nothing to do with type of government and name of the president and press or parties or... if i post for fun in the future - maybe even tomorrow if it is open - just be polite... I respect eventual decission to close the pub and to concentrate only on war romantism and game, and I go, not interested in it - thanks for OG options to creators, including some were great improvements ....nonetheless I do not care about and - despite really questionable interventions on important subject as health - think adding that link was good thing, and Serbian females should ask themselves why are they "leading the continent" in number of deaths from cancer per 100k etc. etc. (will legalized prostitution help as "female issue", just joking) ...i do not see any particular geopolitics in it but yes citizens of Russia and Ukraine are in better position on that particularity so i praised that. Nor I see need for anyone from Germany to post anything on my words..... just help, advice and some serious observation, opinion on such important subject, not provocations and really idiotism from idiots.... finished, you finished too hopefully, hope you can reach our levels soon if that's so fun.....

I present to all visitors of cantina this Dada poem by Hugo Ball



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i finished on this... hope you get to your senses tomorrow after hard day at work and if not you get help you need... respect to those dying in thousands yearly, it could have been prevented, since our ratio of incidence is better than many countries, but mortality higher... one of the steps to make Serbia truly better place

topics are serious, while my tone is not always... lapsus with Tolstoyevski's books was fun ...and probably shows that I did not read all classics completely, remember those days and how we all cheated... but books are now kicked out of schools so no trouble in the future ; ... let's do some more monuments together anyway, making place more beautiful forget about politics and human engineering and be people, hope for lots of beautiful babies with you as well...

I quitted reading some time before but when I saw posts from other guys then Ale I restarted and relalized that Captain Picard is great.

I don't want to take part in the discussion. But I would also like to write something that probably nobody is interested in.
Since last year I've been playing a tournament every year (with very complicated rules) and I'm visiting the city that wins that year. This year, over 600 cities from multiple countries qualified. After a few knockout rounds, 78 cities remained, which were divided into three leagues of 26 teams. The top four from each league advance to the finals. Darmstadt, Cologne, Trier and Saarbrücken were the first teams to qualify for the finals yesterday. Incidentally, in League C there is a city that Parabellum should know very well - Chemnitz. But they are pretty far down the table after the preliminary round.

Oh yes, i can confirm the rules are complicated. I didn't understand them when you were talking about the rules on youtube last year

Ale wrote: ↑2022-03-24 23:32, Thursday topics are serious, while my tone is not always... lapsus with Tolstoyevski's books was fun ...and probably shows that I did not read all classics completely, remember those days and how we all cheated... but books are now kicked out of schools so no trouble in the future

be honest, you are a little bit envy of lev nikolajevich's война и мир great book, but its length...

otoh, it's true, the germans commited the most serious crime against humanity in literature: reading der zauberberg by th. mann again and again can be one of the merciless punishments in the hell, beside the vogon poetry

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... welcome to forum as well, we need content as long as pub is there...

I've come to the conclusion that Csaba and I are solely responsible not only for the Pub's anemic posting culture but for exactly the same when it comes to all these OG Forums. In a nutshell, posters avoid posting because:

a) They don't want to come "virtually near" Csaba's posts and mine; never mind that such posts are now in the Pub's rear view mirror and have been frozen like old, dried out fish.

b) Worse, posters might be afraid that, god forbid, their posts might be responded to by either Csaba or me or both.

Now, my hobby interest is PGF. FPGE is a related editing utility the source code of which is "publicly" available. Yet, no programmer has come forth to fix certain obvious, technical deficiencies and misconceptions. It must be because of Csaba's old posts and mine.

P.S. Csaba, feel free to proclaim your... innocence should you feel I've unfairly lumped you together with the likes of me.