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Well, not all "babas" are the same. So, let's focus on the "Baklava Baba Parachutist Core".
Here goes the first scenario. "Baklava babas" parachute into "Anorexic Barbie Territory". "Anorexic Barbie Anti-Air Units" attempt to blast those... lethal "babas" out of the sky. Why such resistance ? Imminent and overwhelming temptation, of course !
Well, except some predictions that I mentioned about chance (if things do not change) that we are among 10 countries in the world that could shrink most by 2050-60 in population and that we are among 20-25 oldest nations by average age in the world.... on the bright side "new data" there shows that we are allegedly in 2021 now second tallest male population in Europe and by that in the world. After Montenegro, but everybody knows that Montenegrins and Serbs is same thing, so crown is ours in any way interesting if true and very good argument for whole Scytho-Sarma theory and "tribe of ginats" and why our only emperor, Dušan, was most likely one of tallest in recorded history, proven by bones (talked all that extensively))
and among those to shrink most by 2050..... 
if nothing else, worth a smile as "facts" - and if Turkish miladies like strong and tall ones but not smart ones, we are good choice but it's funny addition to old jokes about "big but not smart" figures and posted for fun...) An arrested state of... evolution, perhaps ? whome we will need in not so far future as explained - by yearly consumption of pure alcohol in liters and have, allegedly by site, significantly greater "litrage" than some countries we usually connect with high consumption... well, i always joked that whole story about "Sirpsindigi" aka battle of Maritsa/Evros might be total myth and if Vukašin & co. was drunk than it is not far from truth that Turks, Lala Pasha & co. were drunk as well ... back to today it is even more funny than "traditionally liberal" Turkey, that many north African Arab countries (except Egypt) have greater yearly pure alcohol consumption than east European countries, guess many people would wrongly guess that they are very "anti-drink" by cultural differences but not so.... even Iran is in front - part of answer is that in many of that countries often highly alcohol percentual drinks are "secretly" made, some spirits etc. I lived, as small kid back in 80s, in Libya for 2 years (I was child slave)) and by talks of parents it seems true that Arabs often have some spirits in houses, AND often not bought openly... ...btw, we are by UN classification placed in southern Europe and at least by this category (again if true)) we seem to belong there... however - as Hex and I mentioned - "rakija" is what "shakes" here, usually (domestically produced wine is sometimes cheaper, it might be answer for last paragraph) That Gaddafi is good example - although many countries dealt with him and made money with him, 10 years ago some silly oposition source in Libya aired silly things like "Serbia airforce fights with Gaddafi and bombs around" almost like we are some superpower, some America or Russia, able to send planes across Mediterranean sea, or on carriers maybe ... i have old joke that whenever sh*t happens in the world someone will be there to point finger at us, sometimes very silly sounding... he is just one example, there are probably others and freshest of them all is (our great traditional pal)) Saudi Arabia with various sources recently "connecting us with them", more than appropriate to extent that wikipedia has such silly line:Serbia has emerged as a major weapon supplier for Saudi Arabia
yeah, Suadites are all driving Serbian tanks and flying our planes etc. It is funny to malicious, but nonetheless... we are, btw, probably one of the last countries to establish diplomatic relations with them, only in 2013 before it was only Arab country we never had historical contacts and realations, that's why it's especially funny (now we are pals)... word "major" was probably used as meaning "in majority of exports" not as meaning "most important" but still funny line ... as said nothing about nations nor personal and best of luck to you miladies of desert ; (after all many Turk girls use your names, they sound very feminine and nice... did I say that I'm from the tallest male tribe in the world and.... blah, blah, blah) .... and i warn those with more serious intentions and research whenever i encounter something unreliable, esp. on subject i know something about. it was UAE recently, in past few years, who opened full diplomatic mission here and (general impression is) they do not calculate. Saying because some analitics guess reasons for Saudi not doing it yet - we btw have a building in their capital - from "waiting from Serbia to fully finish business" to, on the contrary, that they "do not want to do it yet calculating that Saudis are unpopular here" etc. etc. ... no idea about 100% proper reason, but certainly it is not economical on their side nor it is about any murky arms trade ; .... besides why not, talking and researching very far ancient history with them which at least in interesting linguistic way connects us with that country, Persia and all. Was our king Milan a fool or did it hurt our "national interests" to get a medals from Persians, Hawaii or anyone... so it has deeper consequences and why shouldn't we be smart as Turks who even apolitically boost some their ancient ties with central Asia. back to Saudi-Iran disputes, i'm undecided both Iranian and Saudi girls are very nice and could be needed and since middle ages we led own policies cooperating with other states as well... Russians are smart as well and know that we are taller seriously though, they know we are old tribe and respect us (and surely know that we would not arm Ukraine nor IS nor there is need for that)), it is not about China nor Russia nor US. Iran could be great opportunity once (and like Turkey) country we could have many personal and emotional relations with, my prediction... as for Saudis I'll gladly write some "black knight" version with beautiful Saudi princess and our brave knight defending her from Timur to popularise our ties .... officialy out on this (might come back only to Turkey, old pal and neighbor, if i feel so) I already talked too much, but like to talk about that regions and have no problem with anything ; ... hope at least some lines are funny but take many seriously and informative (like that embassy building "controversy") and never trust anyone, esp. not own politicians 
No, at this point in time, I absolutely refuse to post anything re: Covid-19 ! 
Zeitgeist be damned... 
To boot, macro phenomena can only aspire to achieve... pimpdom's hands-on clarity. In any case, beating up on "someone" over here and distributing aid to "someone" over there have to be simultaneous, otherwise "it" won't work, right ? 
You surely realize that "we" are made for each other... AND... power over others; the most powerful aphrodisiac known to man.
The dramaturgical model views social life in terms of actors performing to audiences, wearing masks, using props and, finally, reading the... reviews ! The analogy isn't really to the classical theater's rigidly followed scripts, but to improvised theater where the actors work out the script as they go. In my view, the dramaturgical model is inextricably intertwined with man's tribal essence. Many surprising, albeit pessimistic, even infuriating, implications are bound to follow...
Perhaps they wanted to avoid multimedia representations of a Field Marshal's chauffeur and car ? 
As for cigars, well, where there's smoke there's... fog of war, right ? If only those cigars could magically transform themselves into heavy SP artillery and V2 rockets... 
Provided, of course, the enemy didn't dump tons and tons of salt into the lakes... Even then, high blood pressure isn't an instant killer ! Ok 21st Century computer "users", consider this:My knowledge of computers and technology is very limited...
) exhibit rhetorical incontinence while stage 3 dementia patients exhibit, well, the fecal type... Aren't analogies just enticing ? 
It's sort of imparted Read Only Memory (ROM) that serves as a companion yardstick over a person's life... 
This sort of discontinuity / choppiness militates against the transplanting of evaluative yardsticks by the older members of a society to its younger members. Post-modernity is neither particularly friendly to societal continuity nor does it encourage extended family life; quite the opposite and militantly so... 
Invariably, the language of communication is English, what else ? introduces himself as... Billy ? ) to their feelings of cultural / historical inferiority. The second "pearl" is about pride in local culture and a clarion call to resist psychological... corrosion. 
There's no discernible subject continuity. To boot, the expressed humor (if any) varies in intensity, focus and overall meaningfulness.
AND... more often than not, the "locals" become "arrogantly naive" about their very own status. I have personally witnessed "local" Australians unable to understand or fill out the simplest of forms; the interesting part was that they claimed that their "inability" had absolutely nothing to do with... functional illiteracy and a lot to do with their "natural belief" that such... trivial matters were only relevant to "poor immigrants"; being born and bred (privileged ?) Australians, they just "couldn't be bothered" (especially the young women
Ok, what's the underlying common thread here ? Easy ! It's the nouveau riche effect. Usually, one thinks of particular individuals exhibiting the... requisite attitudes and behaviors. In my opinion, entire populations and their political classes may also... qualify; in spades, that is. Whether one focuses on something rather intangible (e.g., religion or political ideology) or quite tangible (e.g., material possessions and practical services), a neophyte qua "newcomer" individual or collectivity invariably go to great lengths (often comical) in an effort to:... pre-2008 Greek society and 21st century Turkish society quickly and cheerfully adopted... South African (apartheid era) mindsets and practices aimed at economically exploiting "foreign" migrants in their midst. Personally, I have found it highly distasteful that some functionally illiterate, Greek / Turkish wives, whose sole "accomplishments" in life have been... nabbing rich husbands, would treat some rather well educated, "foreign" blondes in their pay like dirt. These historically unfortunate girls were easy prey. You see, they have been choosing to endure such gratuitously dished out humiliation because they did not desire to become "Natashas", secretly and profitably... servicing the aforesaid salivating, rich husbands.
), gender roles were debated and fought over by pitting "political modernity" (e.g., women's right to vote) against "premodernist traditionalism" (e.g., "Kinder, Küche, Kirche" of the non-Nazi kind). In late modernity, a slew of socioeconomic factors came to the societal fore like a hurricane. Basically, women were no longer viewed as having achieved a noteworthy political victory, worth celebrating. Instead of political equality, various notions of "socioeconomic equality" have been "pursued and acted upon" with a vengeance ever since. ), so be it ! How often have I come across the expression: Instead, all the triumphalist talk has been about women's much coveted "socioeconomic independence"... Of course, "something" would have to be done about mega-city daycare centers, the hotbeds of postmodernist indoctrination... 
Oh ? Really ? If that's the case, what about topics on music, sports and turning the German Language (?) sub-forum into a soccer results prognostication posting space ?
I wish these members (if any) would come forward, thereby identifying themselves, and state their gripes. At the same time, I can only speculate that, perhaps, because # Parabellum # already is a Moderator in a couple of sub-forums, he has taken it upon himself to moderate the Pub's contents as well !Parabellum wrote: ↑2021-05-03 10:17, Monday... but you shouldn't abuse it at the expense, patience and indulgence of other forum members
No, it's not.
It's an unprovoked ad hominem attack, plain and simple. It's origins are likely to be found in the now defunct JP's forums, of course. Remember # pzmaniac's #... "imperious" behavior ? I bet the presently exposed... wound has been festering for a long, long time... A bit earlier on, I wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the Pub's "intended" language is English. If one doesn't have the requisite education or English language terminology skills or the time to "understand" my posts he shouldn't be bothering with them at all. It's that simple ! Unless, of course, one views the OG forums as an exclusively Continental European space where English (after Brexit) matters very little, if at all... By the way,Parabellum wrote: ↑2021-05-03 10:17, Monday... because they do not understand the meaning or simply do not have the time to first read a dictionary to understand the many terms or synonyms you use.
some interested party could eventually propose that the OG forums "recognize" just three "official" languages: German, Polish and Spanish; and take it from there...Well, # Parabellum # has now taken it upon himself to pontificate about what "lurkers" might (or not) be understanding... As for "genius", the "quotes" speak for themselves. That's all !Parabellum wrote: ↑2021-05-03 10:17, Monday... You would be the only one there who understands the quotes and appreciates their genius enough
I find it quite revealing that # Parabellum # hasn't suggested that, say, # Ale # do the same. Oh, I think I get it; the "specific problem" must be... "philosophy".Parabellum wrote: ↑2021-05-03 10:17, MondayHave you ever considered opening your own philosophical forum? No?
Wait a minute. How about... humor, too ? I doubt it very very much. You see, the ever expanding Library isn't about OG and has absolutely nothing to do with campaign challenges. If PGF were to be kicked out of these forums altogether, the OG "purists" might be breathing a sigh of relief...Parabellum wrote: ↑2021-05-03 10:17, MondayI would be very happy if you could focus on your role as the librarian of the PGF sub-forum.
And while we're at it, why not get rid of the Pub itself as well and just rely on the three International sub-forums to take up any slack, expressed in clear and simple to "understand" German, Polish or Spanish ? and strongly objected to my posts appearing under just one specific topic hosted in the Pub.
I still like to use natural language and don't worship at the altar of audiovisual entertainment. If you have something to say, just say it. In English, perhaps ? Youtube references are just like Twitter ones; eminently forgettable.hoza wrote: ↑2021-05-04 05:41, TuesdayHere is one of the others and my comment is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P6X3IWLECY
I don't want to switch off anything, I want to change it. Otherwise I agree with them.I would kindly suggest to them that, instead of trying to shut down anything and everything that doesn't suit their personal interests, style or expectations, they should, perhaps, be focusing their attention on the OG "big picture"; specifically, the paucity of posting volume and, way more importantly, the lack of diversity in manifested interests and opinions.
HexCode wrote: ↑2021-03-18 06:49, ThursdayIs it possible that a new "administrative" consensus has recently emerged which actively discourages any posting that doesn't deal with OG, other games, music or sports ? What's going on ? Either way, some definitive clarification is certainly in order now. I mean, if posting in the Pub is going to be restricted in some way, let there be a clear announcement to that effect.
Now:
I accept your hope. I would like you to consider, however, that the probability will be very low that a new member will be found in the near or distant future who would like to discuss your topics in detail.HexCode wrote: ↑2021-05-04 09:13, Tuesday ... I'm posting in the hope that some new member, some long departed or currently absent exception to the JP's mindset will join me in discussing matters which are of interest to me. That's all. In the meantime, there could be "lurkers" out there who may enjoy reading some of my diverse posts.
i was young "dreamer" in 1990s, i grew up reading tocquville, j.s. mill, etc. so i still believe everbody has the right to express her/his thoughts, feelings unless they are legally unacceptable. unfortunately this view is recently a far-far-far-right-wing ideology in europe. personally, i never will accept the bolshewoke censorshipHexCode wrote: ↑2021-05-04 15:48, Tuesday However, I hope all this unpleasantness has allowed Csaba to draw his conclusions (as well as ponder the unavoidable political implications on a macro scale) clearly pointed to by the "little example" entailing the empirically observable (de facto) realities underpinning forum "censorship" and super-brave posters / "lurkers" hiding behind the "skirts" of roving Moderators...
that's my personal conclusion
Csaba,My intellectual roots are quite similar to yours. However, let's face some likely facts. Almost all of the currently active OG posters come across as Continental Europeans. I speculate that the "progressive values-driven" ideology currently embraced by large population strata in that part of the world is quite dear to their hearts; hence, censorship, what else ?lvjtn wrote: ↑2021-05-14 18:37, Fridayi was young "dreamer" in 1990s, i grew up reading tocquville, j.s. mill, etc. so i still believe everbody has the right to express her/his thoughts, feelings unless they are legally unacceptable. unfortunately this view is recently a far-far-far-right-wing ideology in europe. personally, i never will accept the bolshewoke censorship
Unfortunately, ad hominem attacks are the currently preferred means to silencing any voices which don't necessarily tow the "progressive values-driven" ideology's line in every respect...
That's precisely why I introduced the [OMK] prefix / acronym !
However, the... hysterical hostility was about something entirely different ! ) posters which were mentioned to have been so much "offended" by my [OMK] posts didn't witness any significant, multi-poster "push-back". This must have emboldened them to up the ante with their incessant, behind-the-scenes lobbying... have their limits when being faced with empty auditoriums day in, day out ! 
I certainly sympathize with you. Due to specific historical circumstances, American English has become the de facto lingua franca of the Internet and beyond. It so happens that, in Cyprus, where I was born and raised, British English was and still is the foreign language to learn well; it's because of Cyprus' relatively recent, colonial past... Now, in my case, I attended university in both Australia and Canada. As a result, I've managed to acquire a reasonable facility writing English without being an... Anglo-Saxon.Major Heinz wrote: ↑2021-05-15 02:01, Saturday My English is not that good and it is difficult enough to write things in English (sometimes I use the translator, like now), but reading a lot of posts in English is too exhausting for me. If there is a topic that is interesting for me I also like to discus, but only in german.
So, you aren't one of the "offended" ones, eh ?Major Heinz wrote: ↑2021-05-15 02:01, SaturdayI don't have to be able to understand why you, HexCode, do this to you and write so many posts. I don't necessarily have to agree with you either. But if you enjoy it, why not? My motto is: Live and let live.
That's good to know. But you've asked the critical question; namely, why am I doing "this" to myself ? Well, I've been giving it a try over a prolonged period of time to see whether "someone old or new" would come out of the woodwork and join me in discussion. That hasn't happened. Clearly, to date, Csaba, Ale and I have been unable to render "Open Mike" lively enough. It saddens me but, facts are facts ! Relatedly, Oswald Spengler had a lot to say about "Züchtung" and "Bildung"...Major Heinz wrote: ↑2021-05-15 02:01, SaturdayI think it's more a question of upbringing and personality
again in short, after 1389 Lazarević and Branković rulers did become vassals of some Ottoman Turk rulers, entered personal ties with some rulers etc. (often without vassal ties, but as forced battle formations and tax sending to them) but country existed until 1459 and had own courts, self-rule and existed on map ; again not about some game game, but i'm not lazy to put here as valuable info - so many interesting events, figures and battles after 1389 so 1459 (again) is only moment when map could look like that.... (i find it "important" to fully know history of medieval Serbia, for instance)
(and dudes in London from XVII c) Still think those "eastern" peoples in very large extent "hold the key" on the subject and some interesting discovery could really put some light on "Iranic-Slavic" mixture that created tribe of us and I only say to them that it was built as some sort of reconciliation and debt to that emperor of whole Persia, because our ancestors killed him, by one version of history 
(the Scyths, known as Serbs later)) ... it marked a start of bloody wars we had to wage against Persians and one of the main reasons of campaigns by emperor Darius against us...... nonetheless and seriously, it does look similar, one of the main architects of cariatides etc., maybe not exterior look, was also a Croat by ethnicity.... nonetheless, still interesting details from that person and fact that great Scyth migrations were ongoing exactly in time of Plinius Elder map and Plinius Younger mentioned of Iranic tribe sharing name... possibly pushed north-east by that time and in Slavic mix etc. have fun.
- recently watched (i'd say) solid reportage on the BBC about some visit of American conservative media figure (never heard) to Hungary and mister Orban. si signor we Mexicans... however there is one big difference - and very important - and that is migrants in Serbia came to our country from the EU territory or (only other option although not viable) Montenegro if smuggled as we do not border Syria, Afganistan, Africa and are landlocked. Other aspect is exactly that and why i talked it for years now... some just push people to Serbia and then Hungarians push them back etc. etc. and all we get is "Mexicans", smuggling exists but probably starts way before Serbia - personal satisfaction in all this is that Bulgaria is then Nicaragua and Greece Honduras... what should Turkey be, Colombia for example proud to be Iranic, for Latinos not to think I think bad about them ... generally i dislike politics and nothing special to tell on international forum, but had to comment this as BBC gave good "schlagwort" and must say i laughed seeing how they presented the story... ...i so almost missused sweet girl lateley, but will finish for now and all in good spirit as positive thing, because i like those images, just examples i put together in collage, what we lack is "commercial spirit" of some nations so i'm giving idea like cute baby doll, you push it somewhere and it sings national anthem....) have fun and love to her, so sorry if almost culturally unpleasant to mention that much, but to me most beautiful photo from country in 2021 
generally, i'd say we as historic tribe above all (now it is "diverse nation" not tribe of course) have a lot of potential (although small as we are) for commercial-economic marketing i.e. nice image in Africa above all, why not in other places with significant population of that origin. Since i've mentioned many times and even put a pic of her - let it be clear that cute Yvonne is of course not African, she is Serb (American...) Later it is famous that in XIX century our leader of revolution/uprising is legendary known as "Black George" (in Turk speech) giving name to last dinasty.... etc. etc. etc. "blackness" even if not genetical was omni-present, so cute marketing potential for fun... or cute story of our previous imperial duke Preljub ("Adultery" in free and funny translation) as maybe not son of Albanian, Greek or Italian girl but maybe cute African, but this is unsourceful just funny etc. etc. of course we don't have many examples of that so mention for fun... there is potential and chance to brand positively in Africa because of those historical fun facts and act friendly, irrelevant of one's likeness or sexual attraction to the girls, talking from male perspective ) which are not only sexy but smart and with potential to rule us as queens (black girls). aaanyway - i was talking about branding "blackness" and economic potential of our legendary tribe. Think about cool aspects always, even if your life isn't so super... isn't that photo (again of American) super and positive to us, not experiment... now i covered it all in "mike" long turn from my initial direction and goal to see if someone have medieval sources now abandoned as direction but - while i have no idea what i talked about through it all - as always good chance for some fast typing and fun, even idea... (we had no ships) and had no relations, without diplomacy. Henry was good pal of our then king Milan and future king Petar (although they did not like each other that much) and both were friends of colored people - Milan of Hawaii king and his officers/court and Peter of French.... to cut the long story short - later when he returned to the USA one of conditions was to show dark blue uniform of Serb general, only one he loved to the end of his life..... (and waterpolo) there is potential for good relations and special ties in the future... however that's where most historical similarities end (except that Yankees bombed us both in some time of history))... anyway to the serious point. They are smaller than us and cuter, we must be protective. Even if I used them with sympathy and smile, it is not alright to consider them bad... It is troubled state, in "western world" - while it is disputed what it covers as term, but lets say Europe, N America and I don't know maybe some Asian states - one of the most troubled states regarding violence, gun related problems and aggression. Not alright to consider them "rednecks" and must show some love, even help them in that sense, we as well as country... maybe some "sisterly" relations, sending teachers and officers and courses, similar cooperation not demonization. And making babies with them, of all colors. As older, much more serious and bigger state without such troubles we should help, simply said this is serious message. The "overall situation" is already ridiculous enough !Military History's RelevanceLettos wrote: ↑2021-09-07 11:32, TuesdayWargaming was a good past time. Now it may be needed for two purposes: training military officers, or - to a much lesser extent - for the learning process as part of the study of military history.
The military structures will take care of themselves.
But the study of military history in the context of the general decline in the level of secondary and even higher education is no longer relevant at all.
Statistics:"World of Tanks", where tanks jump off bridges and jump over pumpkins, already has 75 million users.Total posts 10287 • Total topics 497 • Total members 193
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_TanksIn June 2013, "Wargaming" stated that they now have 60 million registered users for World of Tanks.
It's about time something changes around here, isn't it? And not at the level of a hobby.
... I feel almost sorry for using "Alabama redneck accent" line in other thread, while i consider it cute, love sweet Alabama, would help and "do babies" In a sense it is almost good that some guy in some much bigger, older and stronger state far away knows how to recognize "Appalachian accent", knows a lot about state and care about you sweetie, no offense.... No, no, no i though of you as young and feminine needing protection not because of imperialistic ambitions, just because we are strange tribe that lived under motto "to ser(b)ve and protect" since ice age migrations... funny thing isn't it, guess putting some my lines under "philosophical and maybe Freud's" magnifying glass you could get all sort of results and combos... i was thinking cooperation and noble idea to make you happy sweetie, not imperialism and subordination ) ...nothing violent and racial, but sometimes they bang people sitting in the park with police baton and such, for fun not because our cops do it ...again, don't believe everything you read, think that philosopher was wrong on me.... but what do you know, sometimes even one word blah, blah, blah etc.... (we don't have American members and players i know, but as always i put it anyway for finger gymnastics if nothing, welcome and have fun with games... yes you can contact me as well))
