Ale wrote: ↑2020-11-21 23:34, Saturday
look i'm not punching any particular country here, all fact are there to see for all, i'm doing it only for fun and interesting facts
don't worry, regular readers of this forum and especially this thread won't be insulted by seeing their own countries have corrupt political elite who tend to spread lies and conflicts based on false facts. e.g. i know my own country and her political elite, i'm dead sure most of them would deserve a few years long trip to the jail... i can tell you stories how eu moneys were stolen in the past years, but of course, storie can be cited from each countries (e.g. look the so financially purist and devoted constitutional germany, promoter of the new order, torch of the revolution for the nationless ganzeuropa: how much money was stalen while building the new berlin airport? how many car companies bribed the eu inspectors?) so for me, stealing money is not important. that's always happened and will happen. the human nature is greedy and corrupt

so don't stop posting mocking data
HexCode wrote: ↑2020-11-22 06:59, Sunday
Totalitarianism doesn't necessarily require some revolution to take hold.
you are absolutely right. of course
first of all, you always can make a few steps back and see the theoretical frameworks, the sociological, political, etc. frameworks of the human conflicts. and it's interesting, as you wrote previously.
for me, these stories are more interesting from a very simple personal aspect: i'm invovled. and when i was young, i thought "okay, we learnt about the french revolition, the bolshevik coup, so we can see the patterns now, and we won't let it happen again". yep, that naive i was
so for me, the jacobin / bolshevik mentality itsels is what is interesting / important. it's very special, because it's not only revolutionary, but the founding stone of their faith is the concept of the
permanent revolution. their revolution has not a certain goal what they want to achieve and realize. their goal is the revolution itself. and that's very scary for me: living in an eu, where no cultural habit, political or religional belief, national institution, historically evolved tradition, way of life, etc. is safe: everything can be furiously attacked by the revolution, and basically nobody is aware of the consequences: i'm not worried about totalianiarism, i'm worried about the violence (maybe not physical, this time, hopefully) and intolerance what are collaterals of every revolution

it's impossible to make a deal with a permanent revolution, it's always thirtsy for fresh blood and new enemies. maybe italy, spain, ireland, greece, bulgaria, etc. are happy to see the punishment of the rebel hungary and they don't think about that they may be the next victims of the new financial guillotine* what is introduced now. "yep that was funny to see the beheaded Marie Antoinette, the disliked austrian bench, but who thought we might be the next ones..."
* btw. the slovenian prime minister wrote an excellent article about it:
Those of us who have spent part of our lives under totalitarian regimes know that deviation from reality begins when processes or institutions are given names that mean the exact opposite of their essence.
(...)
The ‘rule of law’ means that disputes are decided by an independent court and not by a political majority in any other institution.