my pub themes and similar

Place of the offtopic, funny or interesting threads, discussions about history, politics, movies and other war games.

Moderator: von Schweinewitz

User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

...and it was sacked, Canosa di Puglia, allegedly by Napoleon ; ...old Orsini faction member at work even there :) Ok, bit exaggerating now for effect (there is something about him, in that no doubt) in sense of looking for some evidence - but nonetheless interesting why would Nap sack exactly that small town in there and to say right away it was before he we contacted him... or was he just sacking many Italian small cities for trophies :)

Anyway forget that and i'm not bacause of that here, let that small enigma about Honorius III be another quest for eventual Italian lovers, in one compact thread with some other i raised to them.... noticed of course on his page some newer doubt by Italian authors (which i like) if Cencio was really Savelli, really didn't read any of few works in Italian (but would more than like) and what is based on so maybe you can help, no expectation of course, this is place with very few technical minded persons, but we had many history lovers before so i in that name, OG deals with a lot of eras so expectation is that history is liked.... ;) anyway, lack of last name surely not only thing as, for example, our rulers and figures never wrote last names so must be more :) ...To say how blind was i as his page has something I mentioned and i never connected as simple thing - so his pap was Aimerico (haha right in front of my nose) which is obvious non-ekavian Latin use of name and Ai is E so Emerico, simple but not connected before :) BUT regarding those doubts by some Italian authors (again not knowing based on what so help needed always) what i notice is exactly that - Savellis are old Romans and "Aimerico" is used, strange to extent even if probably minor and vulgarized, should be as said Emerico..... anyway, what makes me more certain that he was Savelli is not just papal name of other Savelli, Hon IV, but as i put also possible thing that turned us - Savelli supporters - to French, as well as them in few decades and incited Annas son and our king to marry French and only theoretically Capet princess and to make new alliance with Charles Anjou etc etc... so if you followed, not me to waste words, traditionally ghibelline, we and some Roman families (and even Dandolos etc etc but not important here) turned to other side - so as i see it in our case only reason was because Cencio was Savelli and we in coalition or some support of family ;) ....but support every reasonable doubts by Ital authors if based on really good details like i noticed strange name writing of his father for old Roman while our northern "granpa in law" was Enrico etc. ;) but also minor to extent......of course very interested as he is in top of 5 fav foreign figures for me etc, so again quest is if lover, what is based on, some story.... repeat last names were not writen but for me to say for example that SU IV wasn't of Nemanide family just as last name is not there in docs is funny, must be more so what they say.... :)

medieval subjects and era are really for curious minds and those able to see further, but as demonstarate to at least look at it, any diploma is not needed, so i say again if even fan - what your instincts or looks are etc
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

During his rule, Montfort called two famous parliaments: the Oxford Parliament stripped Henry of his unlimited authority, while the second included ordinary citizens from the towns. As Earl of Leicester he expelled Jews from that city; as he became ruler of England he also cancelled debts owed to Jews through violent seizures of records. Montfort's party massacred the Jews of London, Worcester and Derby, killing scores of Jews from Winchester to Lincoln. For this reason, Montfort is regarded today as one of the progenitors of modern parliamentary democracy.
:) just joking with our (jewish) readers, I swaped place of last sentence as it is second in original Wiki text, for effect :) ...word is going about son of Simon Montfort, same name as father... the one which left holy crusaders of fourth (my fav) after Zara, went to Emeric "king of Serbia" :) ...but wasn't to be ; ...like his father famous for his deeds ) in Occitan or Languedoc crusade, was nice man ;.... as i said many times, for us and French all those long gone events are not "cosmetic issues" nor irrelevant as they (in different ways) led to creation of countries, very discutable and questionable what would in concrete this country be without those crucial 100-150 years, as today capital, Morava basin, many other parts were not even part before etc etc. similar to France de facto... with later history, so different to French though, most likely country would not even exists...

so i give it deep look, use connective method and most of all having great fun in new approach and care for details.... even looking with different eyes on events like those from film Braveheart :) in a way our relations with French are similar to one experienced by Scots as in space of 3 years we went from allies to ones abandoned by same French royal brothers, so Philip and Charles... and in space of 5 years both our and English royals had very famous treaties of Paris and Lys ratified with same French royal brothers - and soon abandoned as well :) And we gained new fame in Burgundy i.e. Flanders and Neverlands ; for still unknown reasons... so it is all lovely and requires a lot of care by fans, how things went.... but generally I repeat, what it looks to me, root of our huge clash with French wasn't so local (not even their strengthening of rule in Hungary or dreams of same territories our rulers had i.e. Byzantine) nor about control of some cities or southern Italy, Flanders or Belgium etc. - to me it looks that French try to, after putting papacy under control also grab "Roman emperor" title and similar, rise of Luxes who were close to them, as warning signs and reason for fast alliance of us, Venice and similar powers to Habsburgs and Bavarians, English.... it happened in same year or during our still ongoing deals with Charles Valois and further - so all our events past that date of 1308 are totally alligned again with important continental events,as i talked...

if you wonder, in year of Wallace execution, could be said Miluten was alligned with him yet :p since i mentioned film, but not important (more French than him as all treaties from Stefan Anjou time were actual plus Charles Valois almost married our king))....generally looking at all, connecting all and similar.... if some story to mention from other european battlefields, i surely will like i successfully (hopefully) connected Crecy with us and fall of Alencon :) in first lines AND he seems not so bad man as some say that he and his unit killed the most Genoese on that day :lol But you get idea how things went in broader events and timeline and how more continental and related than local and isolated all events were... esp. for those maybe not knowing much about our events and history of era, think was worth and some relations are closer or clearer... as said, maybe later currently looking at all regarding even things like Scottish war of indie, Paris treaties, Flanders events in details - and breaking my head on what exactly stood at that "Lys treaty", how many troops we sent to Neverlands and similar :) ...but again, firmly and categorically - no our troops ever on Sicily :)
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NJO0jxBtMo

Weee-haaaa! :) You really have to be drunk as Mel to do it properly :) ..... I say always, for many of us problem is that countries/regions like Scotland are among richest in their colonial powers etc. which is sharp contrast to those separating from us etc.... but not impossible if you dream it :)

really is cute (or scary)) in many ways even considering differences in size and many other things, how similar we and Frankies were once - to say to those not knowing, also is similar that Franks lost lands that were once considered as "old Frankia" so places like "low countries" today western Germany and similar, almost like us as said, and countries were formed on totally new regions that were "Roman".... so there is that thing also, but i say, unlike Franks we do have linguistical and similar connections that one can connect with Roman, even in some instances more than those who claim older ties, like Greeks and (dr) Albans ) ...but yes many similarities with French so it was one natural and logic alliance.... IDK, rised it, question of language is cute and even French historian couldn't help me with it (obviously not sure) so how come that French is considered some "Gaulic" (and Romanic) version of Germanic as (if you listen Mel carefully) it really and honestly doesn't have that melody nor similarity with Scottish accents and similar for example (but i did notice that Scots have some things like "eee" in modern English more looking like "E" indeed).... so i raised it as possibility that some pronuncs in French are actually "old Germanic" and similar, Germans lost today etc etc.

in some modern sense :) or political if you will, I'm more person of looking of end of colonialism in core of some powers than outside (free Palestrina!))... so it doesn't matter to me really - not looking back, not looking at "injustices", so my support for Scotland is not in sense of looking back, nor comparing and whining - simply it doesn't depend on factors or "just because" things, so honest etc. Considering referendums and outside support, nation in far worse position than many..... but i said money, status etc.

something else though... like when historians and quasi knowledgeable people take some film (like braveheart for example) and "vivisect" them and then they say "how unhistorical it is" ;... why saying as in many cases they base their look at "sources" and then say "it wasn't really like that".... so Wallace wore some sking of Englishman as sword belt :lol and similar.... but, as i expressed many times (in our case Byzantine are best and worst), just because it is in some sources it doesn't make it actual history etc :) you get it, maybe some films are more true than "sources" )... always join, like all that and what you think
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

so I say to Scots, ready to repay them for our holy general McIver (and many others) and offering to them own services in chagned world, it simply doesn't work that way, you know PR and all, world and humanitat ).... first step first, we must make Scotland very poor, poorest in England ) - you should wear kilts and bows, some axes to make impression... then - i'm shocked - how come that even your bravest sons supporting indie are typing and speaking "Danish"? :) It can't be, you have beautiful old language we preserved in traces, so it is not "first minister" it should be called "sluga" which was our most honorable court title... then I make a lot of Scots - for fun it is in our (Roman) language term for kid of unknown father really, always honest, THOUGH we have diff term for Scots with germanic "shhh" etc. I'm ready to do that ;

as for us, well sometimes you must be in front not following like cattle always... so we must lead the world and be the ones recognizing Scotland even before Scots :) ...it would be novelty.... Anyway, as seen i like satire and good laugh, but if you just remember our sisters Serds, and not to go so far and keep it modern - our Branus that stopped Boris (Johnson) ruling Paris and London etc. so despite humor it is not joke at all, for once like our brave Vukans and Branuses and many more, our support for Scotland must be one of principles and seriousness, without any joke we can't talk about multiple "selfdeterminations" of Ottoman made countries i.e. of regions while such historical and iconic nation is left behind... seriously to remind, whole idea of end of Yugoslovakia was not about Albans at first (while it is where it started really) it was about right of (rich) Slaves of Slavonia i.e. Slovenia to separate from Roman Serbs as Romans changed course etc. etc... so you can't make conditions on referendums in changed situation and some changed situation since last ref etc etc. Clear as whisky.... beaside that, never liked (honestly believe it is true Serb mentality) too big nor too powerful (in that sense sister Rosnaja offering very good "gubernaja deal" and "dark side of the moon" China) always cared more about those of similar size and so on, so that's it... always remember, we did not rise as Byzant was selling us and was brutal to us, in fact they offered us privileges, Nemanja sons had both Roman (not to say papal) and Byzant elite wives, nor Marko... we had risen because they were selling Poles and Croats like cheapest comodities! (btw, never realized "Juraj" is Croat for George, absolutely not known to us with our Altmonauses, such Slaves so that's behind Juri name etc) so how come we lost that compassion all of a sudden... look at sources above, it says 1995 and what English did to Scots :)

little intemezzo in lack of something on issues of love, but not far from them... let me be clear - Scotland is not any Kosovo (second state) Crimea (what is that at all, place to sell Slaves to Turks?)) Catalonia (people who speak similar languages to other Iberians) etc etc. Scotland is ethnically and historically diverse, not me to play smartass etc... almost like Baskonia but they lost my sympathy after realizing that (some page says) papa-Jacques was Gascon.... :lol jurope is fun, we should coop more, miss good old days when people like Stefan were those of some weight and ideas.... seriously, IDK why, while i clearly say that big are not our category nor i see much similarities (good example is Russia, how can any sane mind compare it with country without any single port, idiots) somehow Frankia is most alright to me, when you read about "Frankish knights" alone you get that impression "poor ones unable to beat anyone" so they begged for our assistance at Lys, so almost like weaker side to us :) As said, like that example, how it survived, created identity is eternal mystery and survived our nice joke with "hundred years war" big test :) .... personally very dubious of narratives like "Franks mixed with Gauls" and "Italy is country" of "old Romans" after those from outside the border went down :lol but if you say so...... :p
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

glad that i mentioned Henry - another cinematic story btw surely, even geographically if we disregard action ; so we can put Garibaldi, Spain, US civil war, Mexico and Pacific etc etc. in cadres ) - and to say to Scots as last in block, really people liking to hear (maybe lacking action in that isolation, but it is better that way)... mentioned before, but if missed what impresses me is not only diplomatic continental mechanisms at work back then, but it was first king/ruler after 400 years and (parliament wasn't maybe right in every aspect, and he had some ex from Ukraine)) but point is that he was pushed back and forced to abdicate after passionate debates not only about political or geopolitical things (so badly organized war against Bulgaria, for even those who liked him etc) but also not clear finances and personal issues.... fantastic isn't it :) debates, no force, abdication, that's point of institution isn't it ; ... but as said also continental diplomatic circles and similar, impressive reactions and elegance, somehow today despite all advancements it is more chaotic and dragging much longer :) In right about time silver plates of Licinius finished in London, so you get me :) ...small epilogue of story, one of my favs while era not some great interest personally..... about name think it is all Hadrianus fault, but really Alba is place where Palestrina is, near Ruma and much older enemy than you, so we had to be inventive ).... if you feel better it was around city named after him, where our empire collapsed :) (and French and Genoese ruined river dam....) ...so i gave some attention to you, send some nurses.....
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

idk, somehow it is almost hard to be serious and "intellectual" on anything and to say that any profession is serious in modern world really... so for fun, while this might be "releasing professional secrets" :) simply have to give example from few days ago.... i and few colleagues are standing in police building with few police guys from so called "intervent brigade" (fast reaction unit) and their "comandeer" as we call unit chief... they say to us really like that "you idiots not able to even twist someones ankle properly and we are giving you licences without any proper answer, don't know a single proceedure" and we say to them openly "you corrupt morons (they are all 2 meters)) are intentionally giving licences to us without even asking us proper question, care just to take money for it"

of course all in joking manner and there is lot of laugh on that level but really is like that esp. with that "special police" etc. and funny and often is tone like that "move away fools" and similar, comical and not able to be shortly said :) ...i do however know basic karate and judo moves and after learning them was glad to show them on my test ) mai (e) geri, "key on elbow", how to knockdown someone with going on down position and doing "swipe" with one leg, how to hold tied person etc etc. ) so they are not right... somehow just said i'm not practicing them enough on foreigners :lol so cops are not right )... but remember tests and one i pulled question (out of 4 + 1) and it was about parts and use of antifire aparat... sit in front of police commisioner and he says "go fool, what kind of question is that, don't want to waste time with it" and i never answered, we just laughed :)

so really why would it be any different with ministers and all others, in comical world.... with professions you hear on most serious world TVs like "only fans model and investor" etc :) ...but with us and cops is comedy in communication, had to tell with excuse to them for sharing friendly conversations ;) no idea how funny sometimes.... tell something pubish....
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

"flick the peace and the police" .... as Para's hero :) 2Pac would say, or was it hamas leader etc etc. all those figures liked more among progressives than "evil cops" and all in uniform :)

must say i was also like that when i was youngster, had few fights even in 90s with cops (when it mattered much more), was like "all cops (esp. special police) are morons without brain, pure muscle 0% brains, aggressive etc. But to say that i changed opinion very much in last few years, esp. since they are mine superior force/unit :) and similar, subordination.... so many really normal people even in "intervention unit", very humoristic, reasonable, friendly etc. Almost feel sorry how "authority hating" civilians often can't wait to go to 'net and spit anyone braver or different than them ;) ....so actually point of my post was more praise to police for at least trying to enable many people to work, unlike politicians who bring foreign citizens to work in country with higher unenmployement ;) ...cops are our pals and thumbs up, like working with them :yes .... people are often hypocrites (while we are not gonna go into specific cases and of course there are procedures, rules of engagement and laws) but quite honestly corrupt civilians quite many times break the laws and similar... case is of recent two intervent unit cops slapped some 14 years old, comment are often "evil police beats kids" (while i said there is regulations and internal control for any case).... when few years ago 14 old killed few kids in school (mostly girls) many comment were "it is not kid it is maniac" ;) ...so for example

in same manner people often call private security "paramilitary" and similar on internet :) ;... but on other issues they often cry how state is often wasting their money... so it is not paramilitary in way as something sinister, it is something from western world and one of aims is to lower state spending as police can't (and it is too expensive) cover all objects that need be covered, for example... I say to cops it is, if you ever watched some sci-fi film, thing of the future, states and police is thing of the past :) corporations and private force, glad i was so in front of time ) .....humanitat is complicated, one "bus pedo" (read police news daily) was arrested in city yesterday, others are billioners and presidents :lol ....while finished, to add here in defense of our chiefs cops ), nice experiences in last few years but had to share that some things are fault of more corrupt ones than men just liking some action or are different... would be ideal all to wave rainbows and no "force structures" to exist, but far from it ;.... same is with 90s, not everyone was rapist or maniac in force, many people just did their duty professionally......... again had to say, for diversity of subjects, always join and say what you do and think about own profession ) as meds were fiasco :)
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

"frog seen horses being horseshoed and she lifted legs" :) as we say, modernity in short for end ;.... and of course i don't mean sex-workers or similar, singers, also those highly corrupt seeing something in resource full, rich (elites) countries and than saying "we should do the same".... cheap labor, mixing, sex work for our daughters (well not really their but others)) and sons etc etc.

many, many challenges and any media is not touching even surface of them.... i always say if we all embrace love and be about it, not working anything - who will make all dildoes? Chinese?.... so yes, for many it is battle for survival and not all are ready to give up without fight and just "smiling".... just don't be scared by all the "PC" and similar... while would "mea geri testing" cop smile to me really and i liked how he had (an empty) gun and knife on his table :) ....must be evil man :) the end, i say and encourage people to speak not be silent - who is right for example, one faction says "they do not want to work" but other says "we tried on many places for job, they never called us" and similar.....
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

gotta love that - Serbia is country where many workplaces are opened for Chinese and is country where you can easily find job on Alaska :lol

was thinking about some things really is very dubious in any place of this planet if "natural laws" i think present already in Dushan's and Miluten's codes "all people are equal etc etc." (don't even know how it goes, easier to remember some fairytale lines)) are really at place, starting from examples mentioned on sex-crimes etc so in short equal in laws and life opportunities etc.... watch news very rarely, ashamed to say domestic less than some foreign sometimes - but like how it seems both in our country are "complaining on police", those protesting against govt of course, but it seems by news that even ex-PM and ruling party member has some complaints on police work and reactions..... so maybe i was right about police obviously not reaching its target on neutrality and similar, so we should faster move to the future and change it with private - and finally really neutral, not under state or ministry control ) nor oposition - police that would enforce laws ;) ...beep-beep, demonstrations in the city "lets go men" and people just looking at laws and regulations, not caring about anything, are fielded to intervene..... :) lovely, would prevent many complaints and acusations of partiality and corruption if it would be force not controled by ministry nor anyone from political sector, except objective members, judges and laws... so i command: "mai geri this one!" and he starts to cry "i'm from minitry" and i just say "enforcing the law, you just attacked real officer".....or "i'm oposition" but for same crime "mai geri!" etc. ....but of course would need much more equipment, vehicles etc to effectively do the jobs..... what you think about it principessa, how realistic and how soon? Possible such utopia to ever be? :lol or maybe you more for some force like Hamas to in our societies? :) (hehe, strong sultan and his force of us taken from houses as kids, naughty girl))

in the end, you watch some short news and it finishes with sports or singers so to quote Tom "sex work, sex work you are my sex work...... aim gonna fire shoot me right I'm gonna like the way you fight"..... seriously to say something i concluded for some decades of existance, somehow people don't know much about anything, even in much more developed countries, like to talk and comment but simply many are not even aware of how things function..... in situation, while all praise to police for professionalism and care inb relation to us :yes wouldn't mind giving some extra cash for test (not much) even more questions of need be - if it would guarantee more jobs opportunities in return... but hey, there we come to that moment, it is out of police reach, often out of state reach and those picking or taking for jobs are private institutions, sadly not uncorrupt etc etc.... so gladly would give few more 1000s of (best) dinars to police..... then there are moral dilemmas "i'm to protect sex workers and their super clients".... but should i be really protecting them etc :) never worked, they say possibly they give discounts to security? ;.... in anyway, proud of myself for finding strength to say few nice words to police :yes ....as said, since we are online i'm offering theme like any, what are some challenges of some professions, future, past...what you think about things around etc, why not maybe some of you also is working on similar things so how it looks, is it nice, tough and similar, what is relation with police etc etc gladly would like to hear.....
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

thought a little as total modern history non-fan, read very little, don't know so much details and similar - but at least on surface and for fun and for some action for my miladies here, about that moment intime when "first world war" (european) could have started in say 1885... if we even imagine that our elites were 90% for it and is so fantastic and funny..... so France (they hate Habsburgs traditionally soout of quest)) maybe Britain and Russia declare war on Austria (and Magyars!) Germany and Serbia :) they are hated as aggressors, intellectuals see Bulgaria as victim etc...USH (Henriette) is maybe closer to supporting us, but stay neutral :) ...Italy joins later,declare war on Germans (and Magyars!) and attack Serbia :) as Kosovo, Albania and Dalmatia is promised to Italy :lol ....and so many funny but realistic combos, wonder in what societies we would live today, geopolitically ;) .....in the end, after Serbia is clearly defeated, even USA (mind our king had good ties there) unwillingly declare war to us etc etc.

while by just few lines and combos of how it could have been potentially it is super subject or better said extremely funny considering what happened, don't care much but again some potential newspapers lines would be hilarious.... something else, being bombarded with this "reklama" was thinking to share impression..... isn't it "bad taste" tuna :) Imagine me trying to sell food products in Croatia "President Sloba" or "General Ratko" in Bosnia ;) ....man who after all - yes already old and doing toilet in pants probably, like holy Enrico :) - was responsible by command chain for death of many children woman and at leats 15% of males in country, bombarded BG with Skodas etc, was responsible for some genocidal acts alone with some civilians and prisoners etc. but they are trying to sell him to us as "nice meal" :) .......funny, but as said could have been ally as well few decades earlier and we together to lose ww1 :)

must be Czech product, he is famous for greately developing sex industry there :lol ....all for fun, while FJ is criminal by modern standards, plus first paragraph of one "what if" if Germany (traditional ghibelline ally)) was ready to declare war for us and Austria in that moment :) fantastic.... generally, for history lovers those are two interesting moments from our history - if Ludwig Bavarian lived longer, and Dushan married Habsburgs and we together attack Frankish Hungary and that one when we are central powers against others and loosing ww1 :) etc..... whenever i think it i remeber Claudia, but she is Frankish origin................. throw some line on what you think would it be possible for us and Schwabs ) to win any of two great wars and similar......

Image
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

police minister says - trust him or not, human as human so i take words as words from responsible person on function and not joke teller ) - how police arrested 3 foreign citizens during attacks on members... Croat, Slovene of our origin and Italian ).... so i had to stop at last one, since i asked principessas about but maybe i should ahve asked guys from Italy :) ....not my job :) but would like to question him about his vision of Serbia, difficulties he faces and similar... minister said he works for "microsoft" in city here etc. Tough conditions, loosing job imminint, "mobing", political pressures :) and so on... or maybe he uses train system so much and he is really disturbed about incident than he take part as govt must fall etc... incident is horrible, disturbing, requires somone in jail, responsibility of many etc etc. but in Ukraine resaons were different, if it matters at all now, so president changed course etc... besides it is country that had no territorial and political conditions unlike us, something i think not many protesters are ready to accept :)

as last - really want to offer some professional theme here, but everything is politics, zoon politicoon etc. - even short courses we went through are helpful, plus i already delt with basic criminal law in lessons... so maybe another friendly recommend to police of any chief - maybe many more younger should be also introduced with lessons and similar :) .....so to say professionally - many times were under totally in their head crated hostility by people, even raised tone is some form of "aggression" we are taught etc. Raised tone and verbal similarities ) are OK if directed to people they deserve, who are breaking some law, try to ruin your life and are "bad" or doing something out of regulations etc. It is not OK to people who are doing their job or duty professionally and without breaking any regulations..... just to say, any phisical attack, some object in hand would immediately cause my reaction and would be allowed, sapienti sat. Again wish all the best to every police person i conntacted recently, long life and many kids (if they want, or "partner" or sex worker with them etc), would never find myself in activity to hurt people on their normal duty etc. Of course i would defend myself always

also again i mentioned 90s, minister would remember as we are same age :) (not really but about) and we had not always agree :) .... no cooking oil and milk in shops, no gasoline on pumps, worst sanctions (by UN) any country seen of recent, wars.... today blood on streets is actually caused by what? corruption? by foreigners often :lol and so on, why i'm absolutely for all transparency and control, less sex work :) .....imagine we start to kill on streets, many younger males die and "thing most foreigners notice usually and only" i.e. girls are free for microsfot employes...... :lol banalizing a little always like sexual quotes, but you get it and is true to extent.... foreigners in our society are often worse snobs than many of us, who even lost big part of life in "crises".... this country is not waging wars, its not preparing them, so why not more courage and protest where it happens ;.....but least of my problems, i just wanted to say things professionally, that hate or aggression in posts or acts is absolutely unacceptable and i would not tolerate ;... even if i forget duty, i'm defending own life in situations..... maybe not all are "microsoft" some are "macrohard" :lol but it doesn't help as they are bottom of piramid.... and then hated and attacked on top :)

political things aside, again offered some pro talks and very interested in how it works in cases.... was even reading around, shocked by article that some "parapolice" in Venezuela of all LatinA places, went around some province and killed poor people ;)
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

today this.... i put Enrico and FJ in same line just because of (quasi as it is a bit mysterious about Enrico and his family so maybe not true)) age... but for lovers of history and development of humanitat ; there is one big difference... only short and onlyfans :) but even those knowing just little and i even added how Byzantine royal family clash between even son and father as things progressed :) before crusader intervention.... namely, unlike with FJ and what really many people in AH thought, when it comes to Enrico days it is recorded that many ordinary to poorer people in Greece laughed and looked down at own elites and even seen crusaders as someone punishing them and their greed rightly etc... while FJ was maybe supported by richer, even in same national corpuses etc.

so even unintentionally when people make some verbal figures and comparisons, often they are not true in every (or any aspect).... many are examples in everyday life so when we talk about various things people forget... for example persons in some sex act when one is degraded and other is degrading, doesn't necessarily mean that both persons are "thinking same"... ;) ....when some praise "mercantile" or bussiness spirit in some conflict resolutions over principles, people forget that Bertrandon, seeing big part of the world, noticed it with Genoese, while at least 10 countries were in fight for existance he wrote how (like finest bussinessmen some would say) they "sold slaves around" :lol and so on, traffic, laws, work conditions and contracts, "love" (pure hate often masked behind, much more than people that rarely use term etc) anything really...

also, for end, various snobility around every corner of planetat ) should often remember that their (often direct) ancestors were not so shiny nor part of snobility :) ....esp. in easteropean societies, but also USA to extent, many more.... not all elites were same though... often like to talk about Giacomo Sara and Luca Savelli, later even continued to lead army after both pope and emperor were against him :) Marco Hauteville, Vukan, could have had all in life etc....never putting all in "same basket"..... and of course some singi-sex workers and similar are not even close to people of some past, often most educated in their society... but nonetheless born and pushed in higher society

something else....... when you see all those conflicts that will mostly never stop in any society, you figure why Miluten or Dushan hired and trusted foreign fighters more... wasn't (purely) because of experience, or because they were armed or better fighters than our... so you get it, no need to waste words, they often had no land in Serbia of time etc.... one joke for end today - remebered that grave in Treviso, Miluten's knight... think it says "I, microsoft employee was knighted by holy king Stefano Orosio II....." :) ....btw, have in family persons richer than many westerners, various stories are known to me..... generally you don't need much education to be rich :lol but generally you don't need stories nor brainwashing from screens to see things around, also eyes are helpful.... also one of the lessons, use your eyes and perception, be suspicious and analize what you see with them.......
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

books are such sh*t sometimes, net not always perfect (contrary)) but at least you can check other page etc.... so good i mentioned Bertrandon, totally forgot that from few weeks ago - have some older (70s-80s) books and newer, various stuff.... so in one there is typo where year 1431 is written as date of George and him meeting, you read it once, you remeber it and often not even take care about something (like Aimerico example i had in front of the nose etc).... so internet says it was 1433, typo in book etc. Regarding "Joan of arc" which i used more as joke and effect but having typo printed year in head :) .....she was dead :) In any case (guess many are such things in many prints and pages so i really try to check) during meeting, continued with Habsburgs later after him - Philip of Burgundy was still allied with English, main notion doesn't change, but Joan episode totally my mistake and badly learnt year once ;) (if internet is not wrong) ....discuss was "global" and included steps to put/change France in some position, finances and all, so why he had to ask more financially capable rulers etc etc.

interesting things generally and what is important is that George was informed in advance of arrival, so why he gave him (slight) detour to meet him and where first time in Bertrandon journey "strategic situations" were discussed etc. Generally to me, who likes, looks that our rulers kept hostility with mainstream France in times i.e. during whole 100 years war, but discussed with French, personal conclusion on "strategic level".... generally minor mistake but worth mentioning that books are full of typos, of course but not to trick someone so found mistake...
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

BTW and so yes, last time to really understand history and George, and forget about Hungarian and similar lies (contemporary)) not only that holy despot had to make "sex worker" out of one daughter, he was it seems in front of some idea to organize "pan european" defense of own as* :) wanted to include all major players.... few years after (around 5) Turks knowing his position and in times when Colonnas found themselves inanother war with papalitat :) attacked Serbia alone and it fell, "first fall"... nobody reacted but Turks were pressured back into restoring Serbia, probably with deal.... THEN, papacy led by criminal Eugene :) who ruined Palestrina just and again :) and led by Poles and Huns (not Serb wish)) prepared some bigger military action, but George was not so active, having not only deal with Turks, but also protesting current in Vaticanus, Colonna genocide ; and similar and lack of clear leadership by Germans and other bigger countries as we hoped.... the rest is history as they say and is how i see it.... in last years of life it seems and our sources say George did raise armies (and we some heroic stories of one duke Nikola, later impaled but resisted Turks for months) and died soon after.... he hoped old ties with Vinegia would be restored, more western help and of course part of Constant if we all push Turks before they push us :) and so on.... one (like Miluten) greately misunderstood person and "under fire" by quasi Alban and Hungarian sources... etc. etc. (and some even hypocritically share same fate with Turks)) another great, cinematic story, we have more than many....
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

....but, despite my mention of Germans (traditionally, meaning HIM)) very is interesting, shortly, that the ones most opposed to Eugene and his actions (except George theoretically i.e. very real, Colonnas) were mainstream French i.e Stefan (Charles) VII Valois, in times when even people like Philip of Burgundy "defected" back to recognizing French crown etc... so our position is interesting, in lack of docs and tracking, is it possible that George did the same.... so i always say, careful with our and Frankish relations through whole era, really in any moment since Boris of Bulgaria :) ... so i mentioned that "good cop" theory by us as maybe dominant in our approach, even maybe "green light" to strengthening of Caput :) position in Hungary by Miluten but it hit him in the head to say so.... many are examples, mentioned many where you can't rally say for sure what was our and French position and was it "hostility" or some game, so as said equaling French with "guelphs" in traditional sense is often way of target and misleading, to me even not understandable situations why would people like Charles Robert and Louis of Hungary constantly retreat infront of (even orthodox) ruler when he approached etc... Stefan Anjou fav example on were French really "guelphs" ; surrounded one conclave with troops, few popes died in his watch (one in building he designed, joke)), Senator position, and Orsini animosity for example...

but here for moment in question, those who followed, beside "principal" George, "friendly argument" Colonnas etc - it was French crown and mentioned king that finished 100 y war, who opposed Eugene the most, so might be that (just like in 1250s) we tried (after agreeing that France is punished enough)) to repeat same game end it is just few decades after our fall that renewed "wars for Italy" started and "strangely" Venice oscilated so much etc etc.... just, it was very wrong moment for us to play them again :lol ...love that, what to say, for some reason even beleive that we and Franks were in constant contact since V c :) had some similar ideas, some Serds, some Roman continuity etc but just as impression... couldn't find exact answer (guess nobody did) on our stand in every particular situation, but that's fun part, and personally almost is most obvious time in some 1330s-56 when guess our ruler would laugh with big part of Europe if France "collapsed" but in any other not so sure.... went far and wide again, so again for moment interesting fact is that it seems that our George and French king had again same position against "legal" pope Eugene in time of our first fall and similar times, almost like none on continent as by 1443 many tried to reconcile with him ; so to have clear picture of days of our fall if followed....
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

...retreat infront of (even orthodox) ruler...
or better said he wasn't even orthodox anymore as main figure of branch (and Greeks) x-comed him and whole folk :) ...so de jure person without any religion and easy pray without any back, but Louis advanced few 10s of kms at most in combined 5-6 tries (together with C. Robert) before stop and retreat etc (with as many changes of possesion of some lands and cities)) but never longer war.... Ludwig was long dead, Andrea pushed and almost dead (year before) had 3 working ships :p .... and more, he dies, country in feudal chaos and still no attack :p (except Turks)..... they draw ) few times with us, even if it was strong army previously it is greately reduced - then other ruler from previously rival family comes to Hun and "Roman" throne but he awards cities and lands instead of annexing mines :) .... but there we are, Sigi took back some cities from George (but still too afraid to touch him)) that might indicate that George indeed leaned back to French, missed that before...... but anyway, some great respect we had among all western rulers that it is fantastic.... many examples, warlike Aragon takes few cities from French, ready to war with anyone, but when we took few forts from them they were like "promise not to take Athens!" :lol ....whatever reasons, like the respect )
User avatar
Ale
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Posts: 1498
Joined: 2019-10-07 17:14, Monday

Re: my pub themes and similar

Post by Ale »

really is interesting that moment in hypothetical what if kept some alliance with germanic state, moment of war is not even important, but in similar times, Serbo-Austo-Ugarian attack on Bulgaria to be case for start :) it could be say 1905 (pure example) when Germans make enough "fat berthas" and Austria skodas to bomb Serdica :) .....for example. but finish is more interesting, not even looking wider and would there be some revolutions or change of alliances, but locally + Italy.... and is so fun and cute.... so Serbia is hevily defeated and occupied by French (and raped, you know French))... so we have no demands, nor anyone (except USA secretly)) is ready to give them any so from end we are excluded from any territorial changes as aggressors, while A-H dissolves in new states... today northern Serbia can't be given to us it joins either some Slavic state or stays as Hungary while country brakes.... Italy for joining allies is rewarded Dalmatia at least and it never is incorporated into some Croat or similar state. In Serbia huge anti-Italian animosity is growing, despite our poets writing nice poems to Italy about our old Rome hoping that will join us :) ....people write about Italians being "atavistic and part of conspiracy" people march through Belgrade shouting "Altomanus is our", demanding renewal of Serbo-Roman empire etc :lol ...but, considering our size and French terror (they regularlybeat disperse demonstrations here by force) it is out of question that we could create some movement to shake Euro-politics, and demand revanche.... we keep quiet, are never enlarged and only due to some sympathy in America (and now communist Russia)) we keep "status quo" with pre war borders and that's it, despite France constantly demanding Serbia to be smaller and give territories to all neighbors! :lol (kiss) .....Austria is also second rate country, many new created, but just Dalmatia is Italian,repeat and they are satisfied and stay firmly allied, loving London and Paris ;.... however in more powerful Germany desire for revanchism is growing etc etc. what's next... was very fun to write this, generally could have had happened at least with grain of fiction.... if you have some funny line on all, drop it principessa

something else.... but also for fun as nobody cares, imagine if i said in 2014 as condition for peace "no NATO, Crimea and something else to Russia" and peace :lol tomatoes flying... also remeber when i said comically (as we due to old state decision we inheriteted) few years ago "recognize Palestrina" and nobody was for it, now quite few western countries recognize it :) .... guess i do have talent to be US or French president after all, just no corrupt sponsors to push me... like historical themes, hope you catched something, wrote longer and something to tears fun story about "we and Germans losing war" in mothertongue, shared just some parts for fun
Post Reply