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it is baby one very nasty game of factions, very deep and very masked at moments that it is almost impossible to track it all and just some "soda" version of history is known generally etc... it is important to look at all as one continuity and other things i said before not to repeat, with to me unknown starting point and importance of every event i.e. its proper readings factionaly (they were never same, except few conspirators hehe) and also views changed etc. but some things are visible...

you know also what i remembered, something i mentioned few times but never told you all... that de la Broquierre episode and all, man full of nice words for Serbia and then our ruler George Brankovic... of course French (despite Burgundy once being different) and worked for Bur. duke who was related and even from main French royal line... BUT in given moment France was not only in known war against English (and us all)) but also in some semi-civil war with Bertrandon's employer and duke of Burg. Philip, talking about Bons, also le Bon :) being in moment of his agent meeting with George, important - Brankovic (if you followed) - ta-daa allied with English ;) and his troops even captured Jeanne Dark :) etc etc. if you understand, me not to waste words... so George was "nice, rich and Serbia thumbs up" for him etc. Of course we have nothing to do with Joan episode and she was our side before ) but hope you understand this as well, to extent... factions baby, factions ; Of course Philip of Burgundy later changed sides and supported new French king, his relative from main lines etc, but in given moment was with England... we also later of course supported French kings - directly from empire of heaven :) lovely, and i really hope people understand all theoretically

also are interesting these few moments of few French mentioned on Turk side, possibly even on Kosovo against us etc. I wrongly interpreted it as some "Templar remnants" (which was true for those who remined in regions after our crush)) but it wasn't that.... could be that France, or some French factions, allied and cooped with Turks much before than they quasi did in XVI c... so in peak of hundred years was (as explained it was continental war) maybe Frence and Genova already made some contcats and ties, partly against us as well, but this is deep subject and just as shortly.... kiss, kiss forgiven as you helped us after our return from empire of heaven :)

lastly and to go back earlier in time, much more pleasant... it could be that it all started with that increased desire to revive "holy roman emperor" title after long decades and when we seemed to be agreement with France and supported Stefan and Charles C. etc... but something happened then and factions created, it was almost 60years without holder, one Habsburg tried and was killed, Luxed took it and we and English fastly tied with Bavarian and that German sides etc etc. Generally it is something about it and around time of its revival - so many decades after Constantin Staufen we all turned our backs and new rivalries formed.... generally not understood enough, but as some historians called Stefan Anjou (king of Albania) intervention and all after Sicily esp. as "first European/world war" - events after 1308 and kiss-kiss on Lys but you pull out and we go to Palpatine and that side :) could be called "second euro/world war" in some light sense ;) And hundred years war was part of it... some say if Ludwig lived longer it would be much more widespread potentionaly but as it was - it was localized as "Anglo-French" war so on continetal periphery :) but really it was continental war and we had role, but of course our factions were "good guys" :yes ..... :) ...i say always, Turks ruined a lot of fun for us, but what to do now... it is XXI and it is only about Uranus, but who likes hope you can understand even closely all i talked ; ...awaiting you, and if subjects are unpleasant, something earlier maybe, Stefan was great hero :) ...but generally there are much intersting ones from even before so we can talk XI or XII ;
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really when you arrange some pieces of puzzle correctly you reach some "eureka" moment and there is one flow of solutions and ideas and many things become clearer...

totally unimportant example but with this solutions i gave in last few posts even "trivial" things like Abraham Ortelius map map become clearer, his seemingly deep knowledge about Serbia (to repeat he put even it twice on map as rascia and Serbia, while he did not even mark some nations etc. knew our medieval cities etc) so i guess that is solved... not only that he knew about us through Italian travels but also Ortelius was Bavarian origin man, living in Spanish Neverlands, Flanders etc all once also connected with Burgundy etc. so could be said that our fame was still strong there in his times and similar. It were also lands of where "black rascia" was also widely wear, together with Spain and England, but rarley named so in France and similar :yes Guess ex-Burgundy was place of our fame and could be connected, plus his Bavarian roots, so guess XIV events were still widely known in his time and our role "respected" or valued...

not so important but even those small things let's say solved ;... lovely stories and guess it was why HIM declared empire as well, people banged heads for long with it as it was not small thing to do in high middle ages when whole Europe was connected and it was not early middle ages when anyone could do it and papacy and "Roman" emperors role was weak - so my proposition, and not only mine is that Dushan and Ludwig had great laugh with it, but great respect from Luxemburg side which waited till our emperor gave green light again in 1355 to crown their own candidate etc etc. to stress out or underline again. lots of subjects, hope someone joins and we look at some things together...
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yes, i BTW found original and much greater maps of Europe by Ortelius and talking about his "knowledge of our cities" :) and not to confuse some who may use it ) to say that on continental map he put some 6 cities in both Rascia and Serbia and they are something like "Taunanburg (or like) Dragusa, Kargona or Zargona or third" etc :lol so great knowledge :) BUT i was talking about further maps of regions he made where he put some really obscure places and cities that did exists in our state but were already abandoned and ruined by his time, Stalac(o) etc. so great knowledge while on greater map he put some names more like from Tolkien books or never heard ones hence my laugh

BUT again his placing of small Celtic village and suburb of Singidunum on place of Belgrade, village not even known much by Romans, and not called as such by both Serbs and Huns then was shock again - and he gave correct name of it Taurunum :yes how come and why no idea but lovely and would die to know which map or advice was base but super... would like our capital to be called Taurunum today, again sounds Tolkiensque :) and cool but was real name by Celts of today suburb
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Château de Chenonceau, place where one tapestry is preserved depicting Kosovo battle etc... as it is medieavl-renesance made often is credited as one of preserved documents of Franco-Serb ties and similar... Revolutionaries wanted to ruin it along along other places but it was preserved due to bridge mostly ;) also was known place of origies in XVI c etc...

BUT with this knowledge and all considered could be said that tapestry - similar to Bayeux one which depicts great victory of our pals Normans against Dannes :) - this one is not at all sign of "Franco-Serb" ties but included in royal "decor" in those years to represent great Frnaco-Turk victory over Serbs and English :lol so be careful with interprets and ways you see history :) most seriously

but lovely... historians say to me that maybe much more places in France (often ruined as well as archives) had more facts and maybe material evidence of some our role and involvement but did not survive due to plague, papa-Jacques and all events... but hey, for historical correctness it is important to say that our relations were not "positive" nor one way, but in huge animosity as well etc etc. so hope i'm adding and very very interested of every detail and similar... wiki pages are very wrong that "our first documented (while mostly eaten)) ties" date to marriage with Helen Capet etc.... there was documented ties with Bodin and Raymond of Toulouse (once center of Visigothic kingdom as well etc), documented (in sources way) ties with Normans etc... if we are to go undocumented maybe as far as some early centuries and even some idea that both were centers of some Celtic states before etc..... BUT again very careful with interpretations of our relations after some 1308 and tepestry as said :) .... :p

couldn't gain complete answer to this day on roots or specificness of French pronunciations and speak, so maybe oif you have some idea also interested... if you know what i mean, for example we all say Karl and French Sharl etc (later also carried to England in some version) so i have no idea what is base, maybe some Gaulish but doubt? ...so also interesting subject to me.... also while i put English among "ekavian" it is known that they call "E" as "I" in our and similar... so generally also subject i would like to know more and what is suspected reasons etc etc.... but generally linguistics are just secondary subject, hope you can join with some valuations of historical and political events of era as i presented and where you agree/disagree....

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I mean as an observer (if not upgraded) in Frankokratia organisation i have at least right to ask, don't I :) ...you know also what is interesting and why i express some doubts, as we also have some proposed Gaulish words in language - said intentionally Kalish as suggested is that our Scordisci and Serdi etc are Gaulish not Celtic globally etc. - but they don't have that French sounding at all, if you get me :) nor are softer or softening or softier etc. So "i" propose also sluga (court title also again) and often mention as example and is word found in Britain as almost similar or pejorative etc... and it doesn't have that French "schmek" if you follow and is more connectable with Britain Celts and not Gauls, so clear.... so many things and solutions are dubious to the bone and it is in some false stage as science, overly politicised or similar.... Taaa-daaaa since i used by chance one germanism and it is language generally full of "sh-" starting words example i gave of Charles (written as Stefan in French again)) and French pronunciation actually IS original Germanic maybe and Karl we mostly use is our hard-elite Latin one, ha! ...but evrything is dubious, i mean first part of sentence while our hard elite K is true, but is Sh actually Germanic etc etc.

so very dubious and speculative solutions all around and quasi ones, pardon to pros ;... but of all known things to me is the best that we have some Roman military and elitist words (and to extent Greeks but they blew up with their AI spelling that confused others while they kept E)) but we above all, almost nobody else use :yes If also turns out that names like Preneste and similar are our word Italians changed not to be related with us :) - super ;... nothing to ask Italians on those subjects as i'm more expert for Latin than them so they could only ask me :) but remains open question and call for some that could help me with French and am i right about this also... not offended if you won't join but will continue with details from our history papa-Jacques actually DID NOT eat :) ...so, French ruined dam on Marica/Evronos river by the order of king Stefan V and prince VI Valois and then............ :lol
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and it seems that French pronunciations were already "legendary" across whole continent really early so quasi is story that both in Bruges (so some Flanders) and on Sicily (probably elswewhere but known examples) their enemies forced captured French (or suspected ones) to say some words they couldn't and similar, quasi as story ;

very good example of what i was talking about (modern) Greek and listen carefully ; ...but they have dual use of it, guess based on some their known rules and lots of "ikavian" examples in contrast to us etc. even slightly in name of tribe as we would say Kreeks or Helenii and they often "Elines" etc. or example of famous sport club -aikos versus should be -ekos, so there are some their grammatcical rules so ask them... but could be said "ekavians" esp. in ancient language.... btw, river name is Evros and possible (though maybe fictional as whole battle and it was natural freak incident) "Turk commander" that crushed us maybe "osmanlised" once Evronos :) ..... :lol as said take whole event as mythical and maybe totally untrue from eastern sources, but nonetheless river name i wrote wrongly :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEiLSFJwS4I

Itanian-Canadian author demanded taking down of nice video i posted as very interesting to understand elite Latin... guess his right, but not something uniformelly used on youtube, as many bands' songs used by others should be taken as well etc ;...anyway to repost it, glad he included lyrics in video, very important and he used elite Latin pronuns - so not only that it has few our words but also melodics and way of speak closest to Serb ekavian etc so worth having and listening for understanding reasons as previous was again taken down....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQeD2TvvHKg
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...instead we demanding him to take down our song :) ...don't understand at (not that song thing)) all above historical stand of some nations, above all Italians and Brits/English as they knew some things about our older history and similar but also about our alliance in XIV and XV, but they decided to stay "low level" or quiet/pushed on it and it is now more some puzzles and similar (while they are hiding as "my precious" some pieces of our nobility clothes in museums)... if you get it no idea why, country on most "emperors" bones after Italy (and maybe most legendary legion bones) and so on, but it is just puzzles and similar.....they all not to lynch us because we did it to Christ? because we crushed all you? becuase so stubborn in defence of Kesars reforms of kalenda? Three fingers? :) ....anyway, talking it all to conclude that cutest and funniest thing to me is that we "eaten" or hidden own "ee" in name of tribe, as well as to tribes as Greeks etc. for unknown reasons, but as said it is due to reforms of language in XIX being influenced by western regions speaking person/s and they already "eaten" E in name of our tribe long ago before ;) but doesn't matter at all, of course Serbi and it is not political question at all..... something else, considering previous posts humoristically - as we concluded that "SH" is germanic as said, thought about St Giacomo Colonna - it seems that our original should be then Giacomo "Kara" Kolumna :lol (if you followed)

looked little at all those "shatos" in region "Loir et Cher" and to me personally this Lavardin is most beautiful :yes (not royal one) thinking about buying it :) ...and it seems that papa-Jacques once stayed in it and it was exactly the one with most documents about our events :) ...join me on some questions from there. Unimportant, but looked and it says we are "associal (-ated) member" of Frankokratia... don't care but generally funny as Greece, Albania, Bulgaria and Romania are full members and we again something else like in middle ages and Frankokratia is going around us and then crusade..... :) (just missed Hungaro-Croatia flank) ....as said not political nor linguistical and not "frankophone" world, nor they are importing any migrants to us ;) ....it is lovely as some respect of history in that sense and of course they will gladly allow some erections to Nemanjic dynasty.... and of course George above all :) ...i don't speak French but it is one lovely (hehe) language i will never speak :) but really like european part of "frankokratia" as i like history :yes again open call for help from there, would really like to "read" or totally get into all events in XIII and XIV, but earlier as well and i think we had a lot of ties (really in contrast to "Roman" and German which are clear, Franch were much harder to read and decode so still some help is needed).... about Vercingetorix I always say to French - it wasn't quite as presented and we gave him clear options, but then.... blah blah :) most beautiful is our legendary "punching" of Frankia in XIV no sarcasm :yes

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already talked, but now as i very expanded whole story and we reached some conslusions - and it is not just Edward, Ludwig and Dushan (and of course often forgotten Andrea due to size and his republican status, and at least in moments Kantakouzenos etc) alone as some rulers and elites around them - i say again what also connects them is approach and grants/support to spiritual franciscans, William of Okham, Petrarca and really range of figures and factions etc. that often attacked both Luxemburgs and French, verbally above all. So i'm 110% sure in that as historical truth of faction/alliance, no argument... Edward maybe tried to stay "unvisible" but all around continent knew that behind Dushan is directly "Roman emperor" in times, Ludwig and why they released Palman and avoided battle with HIM etc etc... so when you add other figures and factions i mentioned it was one very smart policy for times and prepared, not any incident nor mindless attacks etc.

...however moment regarding us that most confuses me, and i also mentioned, is that "attack on Argonese" which doesn't fit at all and it happened in some 1340s for example, time when there was evident that Luxes will react to our policies and that there will be attack on France soon... so any clashes with Aragonese were not in interest.... could be interpreted in various ways, or did not happen in some battle way and maybe they gave some territory to our faction and Dushan peacefully. As first option... second maybe just intervention because they spread outside of Duchy of Athens borders so our king "corrected" border back, second. Third Venetian wish to force Aragonese in alliance, similar to Kantakouzenos so Dushan acted as "fist".... or those were not still fully accepted by Aragonese and were still maybe "Catalan company" that Aragon did not recognize as "their" fully...... or, finally last option or interpret - Dushan still acted in agreement with others as "good cop", versus Edward being "bad cop" for example ;) and relatively speaking of course as he was also relative of French kings etc. so quasi he showed some care and (as Miluten before) quasi punished Aragonese and protected French widows there, with small humor... also why he maintained some channel with papacy, wasn't any balancing at all and "two chairs", i read it as someone whose role was to try to show French that "he might be their friend still" etc (also why he and Loius also avoided longer wars)

however you read it and interpret it i say worth adding for lovers now when i greately advanced whole story - as it is moment that doesn't fit from our side, but it does fit or is easily fittable if you consider what i said as possible explains above... while in "war" we still showed friendly face to Franks ) ....question of "good and bad guys" is irrlevant but hey again just for fun as those were by some western historians "first european great wars" glad that our most potent ruler of time was on that side, haha ; if not sainthood status by us, he gained immortality in history of Ecumenical patriarchate as (together with Michael 8) only "Roman emperors" or of these parts excommunicated by it :) ....if you get it, that's where, due to small details, still need some help from France for example to successfully conclude story of "what happened" from 1316-13xx, if you agree with this as probable version of real historical events, guess English and Germans would ; and so on
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great is confusion on many things that at first look less important and and are but if you try make some detailed picture they confuse or distract... so only one page i've seen says that papa-Jacques was "a Gascon" (origin) and none else mentions it, while French would not agree :) group related with Basques or Vasks. If so it fits in his anti-Scot stance :) (as Gascons had some English alliance) ....also one page says he was son "of shoemaker" while most say son of merchant from his city and one of merchant and moneychanger ; (not impossible both but...) If son of moneychanger it then explains his crusade against Miluten as our king was known as one distributing fake money around continent :lol ...and so on

or that lovely story of Napoleone Orsini, cardinal and one whose influence and "grey eminence" role in Avignon spans few popes and was almost "motor" of few events, though during Clement (as most) temporarily aligned himself with Colonnas but it fastly went into another rift with Rome and Giacomo fastly "returning" where he belongs to say ) but Napoleone had great role and one cute name ) and yet another Italian that built his name mostly on French soil (today and then more-less))... couldn't miss it. And why is (to me) that possible rift among Philip "iron" and Charles "C" so interesting and why France was something else... so while quasi "close relations" or two full-bros are often mentioned, since Boniface events it is mentioned that Charles wasn't in agreement with Philip etc etc... so was it really as i see, "putsch" by Charlie C. and different stand with papacy by his line, that iritaded all and also reason for "puching" by all, really interests me - must say, see small confusion and uncertainty in French knowers on it, but it was intended as such i guess, almost like our events in way that role is uncertain ;....so why i ask for opinions.

France in times, highly recommendable subject but in "tiny details".... laughs and tears guaranteed, often together... Oriflamme knights :lol ...was it really needed such "game of destiny" that one of main faction leaders/motors was Napoleon :) and many such symbolic things... but ultimately i developed some affection and is connective, so careful with what their kings really thought, as said few times... and careful with Stefan Anjou, often called leader of "guelph faction" in Italy and there was arguably no greater "ghibellinichina" since Barbarella on the field :) and he was "pro-papal" only if popes agreed with him ; ...lovely, given some focus on figures of both royal brothers Charleses (no, not "the fool")) especially and also why i ask etc.... as said million are subjectsand impossible to see or cover, so if you have that "eureka" moment and like themes, grateful to pointing what you see as crucial, don't be shy at all....... exchange-office owner's son declaring crusade on famous coin falsificator, hahaa :)
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one more thing - really among millions - from my earlier notice and to understand additionally some humor....

so in short, one realtively unimportant pope dies in 1342, same year of death of Napoleone btw ; - and next pope, Avignon and French one for total laics of course, so line like "rift with Rome" are fun... hastly elections are made in Avignon - btw story also but for story - French king Philip VI seen on Crecy photo above :) sends his son Jean le Bon also above ) to influence elections but he was late :) nonetheless their candidate was elected and became pope despite Jean being late as at Poitiers ) ...so new pope is elected that seen further complications in continental relations, Clement VI - and in his time Luxemburgs take "king of Romans" title to frustrate us and Ludwig, but also our king elevates himself and other interesting things in his mandate (and of course death of Ludwig as greatest punch) also btw and for story, just to say you to recognize known figures and who supported who etc

but now for that humoristic detail, as i noticed some time ago - he made all cardinals French very soon (already dominant from before) and as said "with a strong accent of the Auvergne" region ; ...so my humor is clearer if you know older history, as it was tribe or confederation of Vercengetorix and we responeded with alot of kesars :) so not only humor at French generally but at this cute detail as well, hopefully effective )

....on Stefan-Charles again.... it is not about that nor that, nor my liking is about "his manly nose" to quote Dante :lol Yes, was capable strategist and personal high courage (alleged)) is unquestionable, nothing less significant architect :) but really like him for other reasons, not just for that or his struggle with papalitaat (calling it funny but it had zero German-cardinals esp. later as said)) or with our old rival Byzant... no, no, not exclusively that. While i before praised Louis IX and Philip IV factions (as i defined) as looking more "outside" (while Philip dubious as ever but he took it, Louis great example of few lost interventions outside of continent)) now I also respect Charles A. (and maybe C.) as, being some imaginary counterfactions to those two they led more "isolationistic" and better said "continental policy" tying with us all and similar so in contrast to many who see our deals as maybe imperialistic or based on greed i see them as cooperation and based on some new likes but with Franks etc etc.... maybe not even trying to explain it deep, just some feeling that Charles was OK and, while we theoretically had Louis daughter and Philips "ear" and coop maybe few advices as well - it IS documented that with Charles A and C :) we had alliances and similar and together we led engaged and responsible continental policy, perfectly said :) punch to Flanders, punch to Byzant, punch to Aragon and so on :) ....really not even trying to understand but something brought me to "liking" Charles and again it is not exclusively Byzant nor papacy thing... like continental policy ) ....maybe feeling is that we all punched later French "bit too much" while they were not "soft" at all by their alliance with Turks and sending us "on heaven" :) ....IDK, Stefan was alright and responsible politician hehe... finishing and i hopefully gave few answerable quests to French interestents for goodbye, really intersted and find forums best for it )
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