Magyar is, btw, Hungarian. forgot that very few nations use that term
which is proper and we are one of them as we are close and know how they speak, so it became official, though historically we also used term Ugars - under often false and generic Old (church) slavonic languages, more natural to Bulgarian and Macedonian (not to be mixed with North Macedonia today) dialects, not Serbo-Croat natural which is different - reason for "enforcing" it on many of us was practical as we, as true Scyths, were illiterate.... and is one of the main reasons our (concretely Serbian for example) often looks more similar to Russian and we call Russian girls sisters, not wanting anything to do with them as it would be incestous
....seriously, always interesting subject and we as migrants through millenia are privileged to have oportunity to research and talk about it so much, plus undoubtful presence of Iranic tribes that shared our name gave us extra cool "schmeck", very few tribes can have.... but not important ultimately, though nice subject for deep science and has no practical importance except showing how superior we are and conquer you all
..... joked about Russian girls, of course I do babies and they made us around the fall of (our) old Roman world (founded by Servius), after we decided not to be Scyths anymore in old homeland
primarily wanted to put this and is serious and scientific - as goodbye on thread, quite obvious I can talk a lot about medieval subjects and have analitics desires, but just enough for now - regarding numbers, there is always that feeling I did not explain well.... so to give some context why they are funny and people printing books should reject them, while that is wider issue, not anythig local. So my context: let's say we had 50,000+ at Evros-Maritsa-Marica, lets say few years later we had 100,000 at Kosovo, lets say emperor had also 80,000 of which many were old or dead by then, but some still in service and mind that by 1370s Epirus, Albania etc. already separated - now do the calculation and when you imagine Dušan's empire as whole you (by surely inapropriate numbers) it has been very powerful
so why writing amicable letters to Venice or making alliances with some Greek nobles to conquer Salonika, instead of just marching on to Venice or even Rome and take the ships or Paul's insignia for example... so yes, you get idea generally and number inflation was unrealistic, hope i now explained it solid on example. so certainly not 70,000 out of Vukašin's pub crew
(just imagine how much wine would they have to drag from the base)) not as many as 100,000 in Kosovo field etc. etc.... our history wasn't so "numerical" more iconic as I say and we gave them good scare due to size and (agreed even by western historians) good equipment and armor + being mercs hub, but modest in numbers... even fast collapse of Hungary (for example) might indicate inflation of their true power (in mubers like us i mean, while both countries were pretty successful in given period) or story about previous Angevine king Luis of Hungary who tried to enter Rascia few times, but retreated after arrival of Dušan and they avoided each other..... as conclusion, numbers greately inflated often, but that is something we face from ancient times. (not we as we but as history often)
last thought - maybe i come back with some art piece i looked at in few days I wanted to comment, but maybe not as not important, but generally over - symbolism and strategic importance of river (and bigger water mass) was true and present very much in our history and wider (we know Barbarossa story) and in many smaller clashes in Rascia-Serbia, not known at all... it is obvious, by pushing heavy knights towards it you gain strategic "ally" of great importance and we were known as "heavy" at least from XIII c onwards..... hope i explained alright why numbers are funny, yet still unrealistcally present in modern texts, while i said knightly that even if 80,000 Ottomans pushed 80 Serb heavy knights (even drunk) in river in reality
generally it doesn't change history and I give credit to Turk victories against very advanced armies of ours, which amazed even advanced Italians and Byzant at times. have fun with history, of couse battles are not all about it, but i also gave some cultural influences and even how mining looked like, theories in art like Umberto Eco's with events which might have some touch with our history as well etc. all in numerous posts but that's it.... Dante's few times mention of Rascia in "Comedy" shows we were present and noticed and i knightly as well say that Italians were very important for those 200 years i talked so much like they were 2000
my omni-present humoristic tone is not romantic, on the contrary satirical and hardly romantic, just our history of the times is so badly sourced and sometimes funny and is great material for "secon-third-fourth" look at it.... foreign tribes are often "scared" when other tribes talk about history, but that shouldn't be the case. for example, i take it calmly and do it as test, re-read, re-think while doubting everyone (except Dušan, of course)) and then it is much more interesting, can be recommendation as hobby to anyone.... and again, if you take it calmly, you can imagine Dante having Serb silver dinar in his hand (quite possible he had) and laughing at all while writing famous lines to his work, not as expression of dislike but, oppositely, as some kind of disbelief and respect to what "damned Rascians did" sending our king "to hell" with smile on his face, for example
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btw, regarding main point of our forum - i don't play much OG and ww2 games lately (except that action game i mentioned in other thread) so this was only "presence" of mine mere material for forum and what i imagined could present as intersting (like some expo entry) than idea to attract anyone new, that's abandoned..... as are my entries mostly, but wasn't trouble at all and if even one line is something fun or unknown, success.
.... nonetheless, after at least two bloody battles Serbs and Osman-Turks cooperated well in Ankara 1402, there was also toponym near Ankara or Anatolia "Serb heroes" (but it has been changed too some time in history, reportedly) Well that battle and events are something to make good Turk-Serb cooperation medieval action film once, surely 
(of course other soldiers vere light or unarmoured or "artillery", archers of "hussars" etc...) Generally about armored size and about army size in general, my opinion.... hope i made at least 80% of posts interesting for all global readers, it takes some effort to type, but like to share this.
(Jelisaveta forever)) really wish you prosperity, strength and eventual being in same political entity once... most seriously imagine we have such babe in some "union" for us and we sit in center of the table.... 
